| Author | Message | ||
| Henry D. Chin (Hanknum)
Junior Member Username: Hanknum Post Number: 150 Registered: 2-2002 |
Sorry...brain fade. It should read: I showed him the larger bushing (34mm x 56mm) and he says that it will fit the lower inner rear control arm OF A BOXER. | ||
| J. Grande (Jay)
Intermediate Member Username: Jay Post Number: 1309 Registered: 10-2001 |
Yes, the 308 bushings are the same size all around, front and back for a total of 16 | ||
| Verell Boaen (Verell)
Member Username: Verell Post Number: 777 Registered: 5-2001 |
Henry, I'm confused, you must mean the outer control arm bushings (#4 in photo below)? Arent the inner bushings (#3 in photo) 30mm ones like the front bushings?  | ||
| Henry D. Chin (Hanknum)
Junior Member Username: Hanknum Post Number: 146 Registered: 2-2002 |
I just got back from visiting my friend at Auto Gallery (Ferrari dealership in Woodland Hills). I showed him the larger bushing (34mm x 56mm) and he says that it will fit the lower inner rear control arm. | ||
| Verell Boaen (Verell)
Member Username: Verell Post Number: 767 Registered: 5-2001 |
The parts cross-reference computer for AutoZone in Nashua won't accept Ferrari as a make! Jerry, Believe me, I'm making almost a direct quote from what the ES Sales Manager told the group buy coordinator about a year ago. They could cross-ref. to a Ferrari part #, but not to a Ferrari model. The part # they gave you is an ES number, not an AutoZone number. Maybe they finally learned from the infamous group buy episode that 13.3101G fits 308s, but earlier this spring they damned shure still couldn't tell us what Ferrari used the 13.3102Gs that half the 30 or so people in the group buy, like Hanknum, are still stuck with 8 each and are trying to sell. Hanknum, The 34x56 bushings can be cut down to 34x49mm. Just by chucking them into a lathe & using a parting tool. BTW, There were 30 people or so involved in the group buy! This is directly from their web site: http://www.energysuspension.com/fer.html " FERRARI Front and Rear Control Arm Bushing Assembly fits many different models. Shell O.D. Measurement O.E.M. Part # Set Number * 30mm 111616 13.3101 34mm 154539 13.3102 * NOTE- One bushing per set." | ||
| Henry D. Chin (Hanknum)
Junior Member Username: Hanknum Post Number: 144 Registered: 2-2002 |
FWIW, I did contact a couple of local Auto Zones. The first said they couldn't get anything for Ferraris (even though I had the ES p/n). The second said they would look into it and call back...they never did. | ||
| Jerry W. (Tork1966)
Member Username: Tork1966 Post Number: 695 Registered: 7-2001 |
I don't understand how that can be. I called ES and they gave me Auto Zone's part # (13.3101GX) over the phone in about 30 seconds. I then went to AZ and ordered them and got them 3 days later. 16 @ 20.99/ea. They fit perfectly. | ||
| Verell Boaen (Verell)
Member Username: Verell Post Number: 756 Registered: 5-2001 |
Auto Zone can't help as ES just lists both bushings as being for 'Ferrari' with no model info. My son is a shift manager for AZ & I tried to get a group buy going thru them before I got involved in the F*chat/F*list group buy. The ES factory doesn't know which F* model they were used on! That was big piece of how the group buy went awry. | ||
| Jerry W. (Tork1966)
Member Username: Tork1966 Post Number: 694 Registered: 7-2001 |
I got my ES bushings from Auto Zone, check with them. | ||
| Henry D. Chin (Hanknum)
Junior Member Username: Hanknum Post Number: 142 Registered: 2-2002 |
Steve- I agree with you. Unfortunately, that doesn't help me now or the others with the wrong bushings. ES has been extremely difficult to work with. | ||
| Steve Magnusson (91tr)
Intermediate Member Username: 91tr Post Number: 1793 Registered: 1-2001 |
Henry (and Brian) -- Thanks for the detailed information. I don't see why ES doesn't put diameter AND length data with each bushing PN -- you'd think it would save a lot of trouble/confusion (without really giving away a serious secret). | ||
| Henry D. Chin (Hanknum)
Junior Member Username: Hanknum Post Number: 137 Registered: 2-2002 |
Steve- This is the info I received from Brian @ Ferrari Parts Exchange: 34x49 = Ferrari part number 154538. This is used on 348 and TR/512TR rear lower outer a-arms. 34x56 = Ferrari part number 154539. This is used on TR/512TR rear lower inner a-arms. Do you or anyone else have any other info that either confirms or contradicts this? | ||
| Steve Magnusson (91tr)
Intermediate Member Username: 91tr Post Number: 1792 Registered: 1-2001 |
Didn't mean to imply that 348 use "only" the 34 mm diameter. What I heard was 348 use a mix of 30 mm and 34 mm diameter -- can no one confirm/deny? | ||
| J. Grande (Jay)
Intermediate Member Username: Jay Post Number: 1291 Registered: 10-2001 |
I thought that all the 12's used the larger ones and the 8's used the smaller ones. | ||
| Steve Magnusson (91tr)
Intermediate Member Username: 91tr Post Number: 1791 Registered: 1-2001 |
Henry -- I've also "heard" the 34mm diameter A-arm bushings are used on 348 (but no hard evidence so hopefully someone else can better confirm/deny) | ||
| J. Grande (Jay)
Intermediate Member Username: Jay Post Number: 1289 Registered: 10-2001 |
Henry, put the larger ones on ebay. | ||
| Henry D. Chin (Hanknum)
Junior Member Username: Hanknum Post Number: 136 Registered: 2-2002 |
I was involved in the ES Bushing group buy fiasco a while back and am looking to buy 8 polyurathane (sp?) 30mm control arm bushings (ES part# 13.3101G) for my 308. On the other hand, I have (8) 34mm x 56mm poly bushings (ES part# 13.3102G) for sale. I have been told these fit TR and 512TR rear lower inner A-arms (Ferrari part# 154539. If anyone can help me or I can help anyone else out, please contact me. Thanks Henry |