| Author | Message | ||
| Alan Leach (Speedy308)
New member Username: Speedy308 Post Number: 39 Registered: 12-2002 |
The '77 308GTB 2V carb shroud is VERY different from later models. Mine is missing on vacation but we have one at JRVs that we are refabricating from. It is slot perforated sheet steel that is "square" at the corners, much smaller than later "full" covers. It has oval rings tacked to it where the tips come thru. Pretty simple really, compared to later assemblies. | ||
| Joe Calareso (308man)
New member Username: 308man Post Number: 6 Registered: 2-2002 |
DJ, If you're interested, I've got an exhaust grill off an 84QV in excellent condition. It was professionally restored..tank dipped to remove old paint and then resprayed with high temp low lustre black. No dings, dents or scratches and looks new. There's some very light surface pitting on some of the louvers where the previous paint was peeling. You don't see it unless you are eyeballing it from a few inches away. thanks, Joe | ||
| Barry Wolinsky (308gtb)
Member Username: 308gtb Post Number: 504 Registered: 2-2002 |
Verell, Just to add a bit to what you posted earlier today, the US version fiberglass GTBs have a rear valance similar to the Euro 2V and 4V valances, but without the single (2v) or double (4V) cutouts.  Barry | ||
| DJ Geck (Djgecko)
New member Username: Djgecko Post Number: 29 Registered: 4-2003 |
Verell, Steve, and Eric: Thanks for the info on the paint. Any other sources for obtaining a "not new" exhaust grill for an 308 US QV? Thanks, DJ | ||
| Steven R. Rochlin (Enjoythemusic)
Member Username: Enjoythemusic Post Number: 442 Registered: 4-2002 |
Jesse, Thanks for the call this AM (afternoon your time) and am boxing her up today and will send out FedEx 3-day. Enjoy it as she is in wonderful condition. Besides, at my low price if she does not fit you can easily sell it and break even (maybe even, gosh forbid, make a profit :-) ). Enjoy the Drive, Steven R. Rochlin | ||
| Jesse Hoffman (Hoffmeister)
New member Username: Hoffmeister Post Number: 50 Registered: 12-2002 |
All, It seems that the only way to ABSOLUTELY confirm this is to just give it a try. So I'm buying Steven's grill and we'll wait and see. I'll let eveyone know how it goes. I just wanted to take a minute and thank everyone for their time and help on this. I really appreciate it due to my current location (in Camp Bondsteel, Kosovo A.K.A. Prison) and lack of resources. Take care and be safe. Thanks again, Jesse | ||
| Eric Eiland (Eric308gtsiqv)
Member Username: Eric308gtsiqv Post Number: 829 Registered: 11-2001 |
Concerning paint....I resprayed a QV exhaust grille a while back using a couple cans of B-B-Q grill black paint from ACE Hardware...turned out looking brand new! | ||
| Steven R. Rochlin (Enjoythemusic)
Member Username: Enjoythemusic Post Number: 441 Registered: 4-2002 |
DIAPER SOLD TO JESSE As for the color, it is a flat black. The camera flash unit made the color deceiving. Looks like stock paint to me and the unit is in very good condition. In any event the diaper is SOLD but the exhaust is still up for grabs. Any takes? Want it OUT of my home ASAP. Enjoy the Drive, Steven R. Rochlin | ||
| Verell Boaen (Verell)
Member Username: Verell Post Number: 762 Registered: 5-2001 |
Steven, DJGeck was asking about the color of the 'diaper'. I think it's a matte (aka 'trim') black, can't verify this from your photo. Can you confirm? If not trim black, is it a gloss black? | ||
| Steven R. Rochlin (Enjoythemusic)
Member Username: Enjoythemusic Post Number: 440 Registered: 4-2002 |
See photo of my diaper... Opening in diaper is 23" at innermost and 35.75" at outermost. Selling diaper and exhaust cheap. Verell already has ALL my lights/assemblies and will be selling more parts soon. Just tired of looking at them gathering dust in my home.     | ||
| Verell Boaen (Verell)
Member Username: Verell Post Number: 761 Registered: 5-2001 |
The early Euro 2Vs had the single exhaust cutout, even tho in some cases there were dual tips on the muffler. The QVs all had dual tips & dual cutouts(See The Original Ferrari V8 for photos.) | ||
| Steve M (Steve308gtsi)
Junior Member Username: Steve308gtsi Post Number: 60 Registered: 5-2002 |
Hey Guys, I have a euro model. They do not have the rear grille. It has a full body colored rear valance with L+R exhaust cut-outs (one of the things I like about the euro). From what I understand the US models had the grille cause of the high heat from the cats. If you need a picture I will be home from Vegas on Sunday. | ||
| stephen r chong (Ethans_dad)
Member Username: Ethans_dad Post Number: 268 Registered: 3-2002 |
On the topic of euros, didn't the euro only have a single exhaust cutout in the rear valance with no diaper? Is there a factory euro diaper? | ||
| stephen r chong (Ethans_dad)
Member Username: Ethans_dad Post Number: 267 Registered: 3-2002 |
Steve M (wow, 3 steves in a row) The 2Vi diaper is definitely different from the 4V in exhaust outlet configuration AND exhaust tip locations. The 2V carb muffler I thought was the same as the euro muffler. | ||
| Steve Magnusson (91tr)
Intermediate Member Username: 91tr Post Number: 1801 Registered: 1-2001 |
Isn't it the 2V-carb diaper that's slightly different from the QV, not the 2V-i diaper? | ||
| stephen r chong (Ethans_dad)
Member Username: Ethans_dad Post Number: 264 Registered: 3-2002 |
Jesse, I posted to your thread in general topics, but I do believe that the difference in the 2V/4V exhaust mufflers will require you to modify your exhaust tips to fit the diaper. The distance between the tips is different between a 2V and 4V mufflers, and thus the diapers have different cut outs. | ||
| Steven R. Rochlin (Enjoythemusic)
Member Username: Enjoythemusic Post Number: 438 Registered: 4-2002 |
Dave, Sorry to disagree, yet the Euro never had a diaper to the best of my knowledge and checking 308 "bible" now.... Ok, see page 32 and 33 of Original Ferrari V8 (Keith Bluemel). He specifically mentioned "lowered shield for four -pipe exhaust" for the US model on page 32 while no mention, nor in photo of the Euro 308 on page 33. Enjoy the Drive, Steven R. Rochlin PS: sorry for any confusion, these parts are on my kitchen floor now and i am NOT amused by this given my decor. They are sold (or will be ASAP). Have two words for these parts "GET OUT!" | ||
| Dave328GTB (Hardtop)
Member Username: Hardtop Post Number: 555 Registered: 1-2002 |
I can't swear to it, but I think Euro is different. The US cover is bigger and uglier in order to accomodate the cats. Dave | ||
| Steven R. Rochlin (Enjoythemusic)
Member Username: Enjoythemusic Post Number: 437 Registered: 4-2002 |
Steve M is correct! My HUGE apologies for the confusion and it is MY FAULT. You see, my Euro had the usual US conversion and then back again. So the diaper IS NOT on Euro models, CORRECT Steve M. So the diaper i have is USA spec and should fit without ANY mods :-) Enjoy the Drive, Steven R. Rochlin PS: Looks as though both diaper and exhaust are sold. Have received MANY private e-mails and will answer the appropriate new owners in a minute or two. | ||
| Steve Magnusson (91tr)
Intermediate Member Username: 91tr Post Number: 1800 Registered: 1-2001 |
Sorry if that was a bit gruff Jesse, but this is exactly why IMO you should go thru the hassle of getting on the Owner's Site. However, I think you've asked a bit of a trick question because the '82-'85 euro 308QV SPC doesn't show a diaper -- can someone outside the US confirm that's true? Perhaps such a euro when imported to the US might acquire one (at the same time it acquired cats). I can tell you that the US version '80-'82 "i", '82-'84 QV, and '84-'85 QV SPCs all show the diaper as PN 60705000 and a FerrariUK price of GBP 410.05 so if it looks about right it probably is -- good luck... | ||
| Jesse Hoffman (Hoffmeister)
New member Username: Hoffmeister Post Number: 47 Registered: 12-2002 |
Steve, 1. Excellent idea. I will check the UK Owner's Site and see if I can get a part number. Though I don't know my original part number and am not currently a site member. 2. I don't mean that they are "the same" as in appearance, I mean that they fit exactly "the same" as in bolts fit in the correct places. I just thought someone out there might have a quick YES or NO answer so I can pay Steven and be on my way. Additionally, I'm working at a US Army base camp in the middle of Kosovo and don't really have too much time or resources at my disposal to do a proper part investigation. But thanks again for the advice and I'll see what I can come up with. Take care, Jesse | ||
| Steve Magnusson (91tr)
Intermediate Member Username: 91tr Post Number: 1798 Registered: 1-2001 |
Jesse -- Why not ask/look at the information on the FerrariUK Site via the Owner's Site? If the PN are the same then you can be fairly sure it's OK (and you'll get a "new" price for reference). | ||
| Jesse Hoffman (Hoffmeister)
New member Username: Hoffmeister Post Number: 46 Registered: 12-2002 |
Wow...this must be a tough one. No answers yet  Jesse | ||
| Jesse Hoffman (Hoffmeister)
New member Username: Hoffmeister Post Number: 44 Registered: 12-2002 |
I'm looking to buy a 308 exhaust grill cover. Steven Rochlin has graciously offered to sell me his extra one for a good price but it is off a Euro QV and mine is a 81' US 2V. Can anyone confirm this part will fit without any conversion, so that I can buy this ASAP from Steven? Thank you in advance, Jesse |