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| magoo (Magoo)
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David , I also think Baldwin is a good filter,never used one, because they are not readily available like Fram. To each his own I guess it is what works best and is available to you. | ||
| david schirmer (David)
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Baldwin B253. Do a keyword search for that and you will find a few sources that may be convenient for you. | ||
| magoo (Magoo)
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I use the Fram filter also. I think it is a good filter. My oil light also cuts off quickly when started. I have heard they have a plastic stand pipe and others have a metal one. I cut one open and true it does have a plastic stand pipe but it works. You change it with each oil change so what's the problem, At least I do. I have never had a problem with Fram which also is recommended in the owners manual. Sometimes we can become obsessed about certain products and their reliability and superiority. I don't remember any recalls on Fram filters but I could be wrong. Works for me. | ||
| Christian Kienle (Christiank)
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I am having instant pressure with my Fram, no problem there, that's the one I would recommend. UFI seems to have solved the problem they once had. | ||
| Craig Hess (Crag)
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I recently purchased a 1985 308 GTS QV. It has a UFI oil filter and I have not experienced any problems. However, I'm going to change the oil soon and it doesn't sound like I want to order another UFI filter. Can someone provide me the model number of the Baldwin filter that I should use and a website or phone number that I can use to order one. | ||
| Herbert Edward Gault (Irfgt)
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I received my Baldwins today and it seems a lot better quality than the UFI and after installing one my oil pressure comes up twice as fast. | ||
| Craig Dewey (Craigfl)
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When I changed to a Baldwin, my oil pressure came up much quicker than the previous UFI --- Sample of one | ||
| david handa (Davehanda)
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Okay, just saw a post from the Ferrarlist. The bad UFI's where made from May 2000 to May 2001; you have been warned. :-) BTW, the dates are stamped on top of the filter. | ||
| Herbert Edward Gault (Irfgt)
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I understand the problem, what I cannot get over is the fact that if a company is in the business of making oil filters for one of the most prestigious auto makers in the world, how can you have two design defects in something as simple as a freaking oil filter. It is inexcuseable in my opinion. | ||
| Steve Magnusson (91tr)
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BretM -- if the ADV closes properly and the oil filter has a standpipe, oil is trapped between the top of the standpipe and the ADV as shown on the right side of this sketch:  The only way for oil to escape this area after shutoff is to flow back thru the ADV towards the pump. | ||
| BretM (Bretm)
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How can you tell that the ADV is not working? | ||
| Steve Magnusson (91tr)
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Herbert -- the "empty upside oil filter syndrome" (if the filter has a standpipe) is a result of the Anti-Drainback Valve not closing properly which renders the standpipe ineffective (in addition to the generally bad thing of letting the pump and lines up to the filter drain dry). To be fair, any particular oil filter might have an ADV problem regardless of brand, but I found the Frams had an ADV problem way too often -- hadn't heard that this was widesperead on the UFIs, but if the (standpipe) filter is empty, the ADV is not sealing well after shutoff for sure. | ||
| david handa (Davehanda)
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The good UFI filters are made from about august 2001 on. The bad ones were from about May 2000, up to that point. I recently installed a new made in 1999 UFI and it had a bad anti-drainback valve and would not hold any oil. I replaced it with a Baldwin, and the problem seems better, but not perfect, or as I remember it. The old UFI filter was happily exchanged at Ferrari of Seattle, w/o question. I will install the new UFI next oil change and see if it holds oil any better than the Baldwin. I'm thinking I may have just gotten a (rare) bad Baldwin.... | ||
| Herbert Edward Gault (Irfgt)
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The problem I am having with the UFI filter is that the oil is leaking back into the engine and when the engine starts it takes a long time for the pressure to come up. If I let the car sit overnight and remove the filter the next morning, it is completely empty. I have ordered some Baldwins and hope this cures the problem. | ||
| Steve Magnusson (91tr)
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Hans A. -- there was a redesigned version of the UFI filters that had definite problems in the sealing area. IMHO your best source of information would be to contact T. Rutlands and ask how to identify a "bad" UFI vs the earlier or later "good" UFI (Margaret at T. Rutlands was quite involved in this whole affair). My (vague) recollections are that: 1. There is a specific date code before which or after which the UFI is OK (but I'd still use a Baldwin if I had a V8 F), and 2. If you remove the UFI D-ring -- the "bad" ones have spotwelds in the D-ring channel while the earlier or later "good" ones do not. I don't think there was any public recall or bulletins on this issue. In the photo below the earlier "good" UFI is on the left (with the riveted holes and no spotwelds in the D-ring channel); the "bad" UFI is on the right (without rivets and with the spotwelds in the D-ring channel):  I'm not exactly sure what the later "good" ones look like, but I think they made improvements in many areas (D-ring material/shape, D-ring channel shape, no spotwelds, etc.) | ||
| TomD (Tifosi)
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hans If the search feature is working again, you can find a lot of threads on the UFI filter problem that some people encountered - the seal failed. I am not sure if they addressed it but I know most guys are using baldwin here in the states given its cheaper price and higher quality | ||
| Hans Aichinger (Husa)
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It was explained to me that the Ferrari/UFI and UFI oil filters sometimes leak. I understand that several service bulletins were issued in regard to this. Is it rare that these oil filters leak and are those from Ferrari/UFI less likely to leak than those from UFI? Were all of the defective oil filters recalled? How can I identify a potentially defective oil filter? Where can I get the bulletins that were issued? Thank you to all for your help. |