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Frank Parker (Parkerfe)
Intermediate Member Username: Parkerfe
Post Number: 1050 Registered: 9-2001
| Posted on Wednesday, July 10, 2002 - 4:57 pm: | |
The paint code on your Glasurit label will have a " /C " after the number if the paint is clearcoated. And the Glasurit and PPG paints used on Ferraris/Dinos are not the same as the ones put on non-Ferraris/Dinos. |
M Grande (Grande)
New member Username: Grande
Post Number: 48 Registered: 12-2001
| Posted on Thursday, July 04, 2002 - 6:38 pm: | |
Hi Mark, I did a little research (actually, I just read the Glasurit website) and they definitely had some techno breakthroughs around 1996 in paint technology...so that may be the case. As far as Porsche...I am 100% certain that guards red is not clear coat, but I am less certain on the black (maybe only high 90%'s since I only saw the bumper covers redone).....therefore, I'll recant my prior statement and say that *most* solid colors are single stage while all metallics are cleared Mike |
Mark Collins (Markcollins)
New member Username: Markcollins
Post Number: 6 Registered: 7-2002
| Posted on Thursday, July 04, 2002 - 4:43 pm: | |
Mike Quite likely, as I said in my post they changed sometime in 96 but that was on the advice of a local paint supplier so the 355 you saw could have been one of the last Single Coat whilst mine and Mike K's may well be early Two Coat cars The Mondial would be Single Coat but I'm surprised that Porsche are still using Single |
M Grande (Grande)
New member Username: Grande
Post Number: 47 Registered: 12-2001
| Posted on Thursday, July 04, 2002 - 3:45 pm: | |
Guys, all I know is what I have seen while working in a body shop to put myself through college (late 80's) and keeping up with "the business" since that time....A 1996 355 that I watched be refinished (rossa corsa) was in single stage. Same with a black 01 Porsche twin turbo. My 1999 996 was black and was clearly NOT cleared. I also have a 2002 Boxster S which is not cleared (guards red). I can say that with the urethane, the color fastedness (don't know if that is a word ) is not like the older lacquers or enamels in that the color does not come off on a wax rag. I am currently refinishing an 89 Mondial T (which was single stage, by the way, in rossa corsa) and it will be painted in Glasurit urethane (I think they call it system 22?). It will not be cleared (at first) and we'll see what the finish looks like. I guess with the urethane (I'm not that familiar with them) you can go either way. Mike
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Michael Klein (Malibumk)
New member Username: Malibumk
Post Number: 16 Registered: 5-2002
| Posted on Thursday, July 04, 2002 - 2:26 pm: | |
My 96 355 is black and clearly CLEAR coated. It has a Junuary '96 build date. By these dats and earlier all the Porsches are clear coated too. I'm successfuly using ONE GRAND carnuba wax over 3M Hand Glaze for everyday use. Some like the Zymol. I find it difficult to use and not worth the trouble at all. A great source for info an assessment of all kinds of products, is Car Care Specialties in NJ. 877-796-8300. He'll send you his publication for free, and he's spent all the time I ever wanted on the phone discussing specifics. I'd say he's right on track. My one exception, and we all have our favorites, has to do with leather care. I've used BENTLEY's leather treatment, an blend of Glycren and Saddle soap for years. At about $8 per Qt. at any Feed Store, the price is low, and you just can't beat the results. I will use the Lexol cleaner as Car Care Spec. recommends on the sweat soaked part of the driver seat and anything that gets hand held, about once or twice a year. Mike |
Mark Collins (Markcollins)
New member Username: Markcollins
Post Number: 5 Registered: 7-2002
| Posted on Thursday, July 04, 2002 - 1:28 pm: | |
Grande I beg to differ but my 355 late '96 is painted in Glasurit and is clearcoated over Rosso Corsa. Is it possible that they use a different paint for US cars? |
M Grande (Grande)
New member Username: Grande
Post Number: 46 Registered: 12-2001
| Posted on Thursday, July 04, 2002 - 7:15 am: | |
All solid colors are single stage (no clear coat)...that goes for my 2002 Porsche which is painted in Glasurit by the way....as stated previously, only metallics are cleared. Type of paint has changed, though, from laquer to acrylic enamel or urethane...sometime in the late 80's or early 90's. |
Dave Penhale (Dapper)
Junior Member Username: Dapper
Post Number: 99 Registered: 4-2002
| Posted on Thursday, July 04, 2002 - 5:02 am: | |
mines 1991 and not clear coated and yes the colour (giallo) comes off on a rag. I've always used Autoglym but I'm told that the Glasurit paint is very soft and that I should use a less abrasive wax such as Carnuaba wax based 'Zymol', which apparently will not result in a paint coloured residue remaining on cloth. I have yet to try and find out, if this is the case then surely a good thing because if paint is being removed, eventually it will need refinishing especiually on edges etc. |
Ric Rainbolt (Ricrain)
Junior Member Username: Ricrain
Post Number: 170 Registered: 2-2002
| Posted on Wednesday, July 03, 2002 - 5:38 pm: | |
For the 70's, 80s and early 90's, the factory only clear coated metallic finishes. I don't know about older cars and more recent cars, but I suspect it's the same. If you have a non-metallic finish, a simple test is to wax the car. If any color comes off on the rags, it's not clear coated. |
Mark Collins (Markcollins)
New member Username: Markcollins
Post Number: 4 Registered: 7-2002
| Posted on Wednesday, July 03, 2002 - 5:35 pm: | |
Stephen My understanding is that Ferrari introduced Clear coat over solid colours around late 1996 (F355 era) |
stephen r chong (Ethans_dad)
New member Username: Ethans_dad
Post Number: 44 Registered: 3-2002
| Posted on Wednesday, July 03, 2002 - 5:18 pm: | |
In reseaching and considering paint finish protection, I was wondering if the Ferrari Glasurit paint is a clear coated finish? Also, while I know this topic has been flogged to death, I would still love to hear what wax products fellow owners are using on their cars. TIA |