| Author | Message | ||
| Tim N (Timn88)
Intermediate Member Username: Timn88 Post Number: 1704 Registered: 6-2001 |
I was only joking. i didnt mean anything bad if thats how you interpreted it. | ||
| arthur chambers (Art355)
Member Username: Art355 Post Number: 828 Registered: 6-2001 |
Tim: It depends on just what you say to them. If you represent yourself as a public official then you have probably committed somesort of infraction, or crime. If you are slick about it, and just say something like: this is *** from the court, I'm the new ***** (you need to get the local buzz word) and I need those dates when officer (or whatever his title is) is unavailable, so that I can make sure we don't set this when he isn't available." Then there is a good chance you haven't broken any laws, because you haven't been specific enough for them to get you for that. Remember this only works when you don't waive time, and the appearance is set near the last day upon which they can try you, otherwise they would just continue the trial to another date. I make no warranties about whether this revised revsion is legal or not, and no recommendation about whether you should use this technique. Art | ||
| Hans E. Hansen (4re_gt4)
Member Username: 4re_gt4 Post Number: 670 Registered: 4-2002 |
THIS WEEKEND???? DON'T JUST DO A PRIVATE EMAIL. *WE ALL* WANT TO KNOW. hans. | ||
| Matt Lemus (Mlemus)
Member Username: Mlemus Post Number: 811 Registered: 8-2002 |
"How deep we're you when got the 'get-outta-jail free card" I was 25 over a 65 on the freeway and 20 over in a 40 on city streets....allegedly "BTW- Did you catch my email regarding your 512" I will e-mail you this weekend after I pick it up. | ||
| Tim N (Timn88)
Intermediate Member Username: Timn88 Post Number: 1700 Registered: 6-2001 |
Its always assuring when a lawyer tells you that something is "probably illegal". | ||
| Tim N (Timn88)
Intermediate Member Username: Timn88 Post Number: 1699 Registered: 6-2001 |
alot of places have a prosecutor that represents the officer, at least they do in my town, | ||
| arthur chambers (Art355)
Member Username: Art355 Post Number: 827 Registered: 6-2001 |
Have you ever thought of calling the Police department, telling them you are the court laison, and asking for those days when the officer is unavailable, and then making sure your case is set then? Probably illegal, just a thought. Art | ||
| Hubert Otlik (Hugh)
Member Username: Hugh Post Number: 361 Registered: 1-2002 |
Hans- You're right; Im a CA resident, but have seen these frames on nearly every exotic/sportscar in the state. Matt- How deep we're you when got the 'get-outta-jail free card'; 30 over; 40 over; 60; etc.? BTW- Did you catch my email regarding your 512? | ||
| Matt Lemus (Mlemus)
Member Username: Mlemus Post Number: 805 Registered: 8-2002 |
Hubert, Twice. Matt | ||
| Hans E. Hansen (4re_gt4)
Member Username: 4re_gt4 Post Number: 664 Registered: 4-2002 |
I believe that's CA only, but I've heard it helps a bunch. | ||
| Hubert Otlik (Hugh)
Member Username: Hugh Post Number: 357 Registered: 1-2002 |
How many of you here that have gotten out being issued a citation have '11-99 Foundation' liscence plate frames? | ||
| William H (Countachxx)
Intermediate Member Username: Countachxx Post Number: 1600 Registered: 2-2001 |
Just by showing up in court before the DA they will probably uct the points in half as well as the fine. you tell him that their shmuck Cop was out of his jurisdiction when he spotetd you & you might get the whole thing tossed. I never got a ticket in the 512TR, definately get a Valentine 1 radar detector | ||
| Francisco J. Quinones (Frankie)
Junior Member Username: Frankie Post Number: 93 Registered: 8-2002 |
could this help? www.motorists.org/ | ||
| Tim N (Timn88)
Intermediate Member Username: Timn88 Post Number: 1693 Registered: 6-2001 |
Always plead not guilty. First of all the prosecutor will almost definately offer you a reduced charge to try to plea bargin because if they didnt and every not guilty plea went to trial, the courts would be backed up for years. It also gives someone a chance to make a mistake that you can use as a loophole. I got a ticket in NY (i livein NY) for 55 in a 45 (bullshit ticket for the road i was on) and illegal lane change (i dont even know waht that was). This was over a year ago. The lazy cop never sent the supporting deposition so at my court date my father, who is a lawyer, was able to get it dismissed. I couldnt go to the date beacsue i was away at college. Would you beleive it took over a year to have a court date! | ||
| TomD (Tifosi)
Intermediate Member Username: Tifosi Post Number: 1942 Registered: 9-2001 |
yeah bret, I was looking and in Nj it looks like you get a flat 2 points for infractions in other states, most of the states share info | ||
| Joseph (Mojo)
Junior Member Username: Mojo Post Number: 145 Registered: 9-2002 |
Oh god BretM, nice story. congrats on 3000 post. Thats a lot of typing!! | ||
| djmonk (Davem)
Junior Member Username: Davem Post Number: 142 Registered: 1-2002 |
Best story i have was doing about 95 in my Fiat X1/9 in the late 80's. I passed an undercover in a Mustang Lx. Took him about a mile to catch up to me, pulls me over yelling at me an gave me a ticket for reckless driving an speeding. I had to go to criminal court my atty. says trust me your fine. My atty. gets all upset with the D.A saying that i was afraid for my life being tailgated by some madman, how is he supposed to tell the good guys from the bad w/o light bars an such. I paid 35 for going too fast for conditions. | ||
| BretM (Bretm)
Advanced Member Username: Bretm Post Number: 3002 Registered: 2-2001 |
All this talk of jail led me to think of an article about jail I came across yesterday... Not for the faint of heart. http://www.iol.co.za/index.php?click_id=13&art_id=ct2002113019293582B420825&set_id=1 | ||
| WMontgomery (Fiorano1999)
New member Username: Fiorano1999 Post Number: 49 Registered: 11-2002 |
If you appear in court in Connecticut they will offer to reduce the fine by 50%, you pay the remaining 50% to a charity, you plead guilty, you get no points. Not that bad. That is if you are under 75 mph. Over 75 mph isn't eligible for that so have a decent story or just pay the ticket. If you contest it under 75 the offer goes away and you are back to face value. Most everyone takes it. Even if you can't afford the half price ticket they will accept it and put you on a payment plan. My last appearance there resulted in the citation being thrown out - 105 mph clocked at 5AM. My story - daydreaming - no one on the road to judge my relative speed - no sensation of such speed in the car - etc. Worked for me somehow. I think the prosecutor was laughing but so what? He admitted that he in fact was way over the limit driving to court that day so how could he be such a hypocrite and beat me to death? I kept my license and saved some cash and points. The officer writing seemed to enjoy taking his time to the extent that rush hour started by the time he was done and I was free. I think he enjoyed the passing motorists blowing the horns and waving at the jerk in the sports car. He did explain that typically that speed calls for the handcuffs, flatbed, in the brig, etc. but that I seemed honorable so we'd let the judge decide. Luckily I jumped on the brakes and he caught me on the way down. Otherwise I could have been rooming with Mike Tyson and risk losing my ears. I think he was in the big house on tax evasion or something then. My last stop was in a small town and was just given a written warning although the officer wrote "unreasonable" for speed. Go figure. Donut time? Will | ||
| BretM (Bretm)
Advanced Member Username: Bretm Post Number: 2994 Registered: 2-2001 |
Another thing to check is also if the points apply in NJ, I thought the ticket was from here, I vaguely rememeber something about points not carrying over in certain cases from state to state. | ||
| TomD (Tifosi)
Intermediate Member Username: Tifosi Post Number: 1940 Registered: 9-2001 |
I was hoping he would say something like that- especially after I told him this was my first highway stop - to which he responded - are you sure I am going to check the computer - then he returns with the ticket saying I was going 80. Why not cut me a little slack and cite me for 65 or 70. I did not pretend I was not speeding - I just said I did not think I was doing 80. oh well I will tell it to the judge | ||
| DHutchison (Hutch308)
Junior Member Username: Hutch308 Post Number: 117 Registered: 1-2002 |
Tom - I've gotten a few over the years in my Jeeps, but only one in my 308. And I was hauling ass!! I was doing around 100-105 when I saw a brown Ford Crown Vic front end sticking out behind an exit sign on route 7 expressway in Norwalk, CT. I slammed on the brakes and downshifted a gear. I still passed the cop at some speed, and I knew it. I just put on the blinker and pulled over. Sure enough, he pulls up behind me, lights going and all. Walks up to the passenger side and asks me what my hurry was. I take off my sunglasses, put on some goofy, sorry expression on my face, and tell him that "This car just likes to run.". He nods his head while checking out my 308. Then asks for my license and registration. I give it to him, and he goes back to his car to write me up. I am freaking out at this point thinking that he'll be coming back with handcuffs. Instead, he walks up to the passenger side and says "This is a ticket for failure to obey the posted speed limit. Only a $60 fine, and no record on your license.". I say Thank you!, and what did you get me doing just out of curiosity? He says "88 in a 55, and nice car.". That was about 2 1/2 years ago, only 2 months after I bought my Ferrari. And no tickets since in either vehicle. | ||
| Crusing (Crusing)
New member Username: Crusing Post Number: 19 Registered: 10-2002 |
I can understand. Good luck, you won't be going to jail, that's for sure. | ||
| TomD (Tifosi)
Intermediate Member Username: Tifosi Post Number: 1935 Registered: 9-2001 |
BTW when I told him I did not think I was doing 80 ( i admitted I was going fast) he said he tracked me with some 2 ton mechanism in his van - between that, the picket fence signs, and the ambiguity about whether I had to pay a fine the guy was speaking a diff language | ||
| TomD (Tifosi)
Intermediate Member Username: Tifosi Post Number: 1934 Registered: 9-2001 |
thanks - reckless it diff charge - in NY you can go to jail if you go more than 10 mph above though I don't think this ever happens. I am pretty sure I will not hit the insurance surcharge level as this is my first ticket | ||
| Crusing (Crusing)
New member Username: Crusing Post Number: 17 Registered: 10-2002 |
I don't know the law in NJ, but in Washington, traffic infractions are civil in nature, i.e. no possible jail time. Perhaps you were hit with a reckless driving or something. I suggest you retain an attorney. The $500 it will cost is a lot cheaper than an increase a reckless driving would be on your insurance. You need to find out how the cop got you - did he pace you or did he get you with radar. They must certify on a somewhat regular basis the accuracy of the radar and speedometer. This is always a ripe area to contest tickets. Also, subpeona the officer to appear at the hearing. If he does not show, you walk. I should note these things work if it is simply speeding and will also work if you are charged with reckless driving, but the prosecutor will make sure the officer is there if it is reckless. Hope this helps. | ||
| TomD (Tifosi)
Intermediate Member Username: Tifosi Post Number: 1931 Registered: 9-2001 |
I just found out I could go to jail if convicted - talk about punishment fitting the crime - I would have been better off DWI | ||
| TomD (Tifosi)
Intermediate Member Username: Tifosi Post Number: 1929 Registered: 9-2001 |
well the wierd thing was - he gave me the ticket but called it an information notice? he said to sign it and send it in and they would notify me if there was a fine. But after he left and I looked at it it said it was a Uniform traffic ticket and I could plead guilty or not guilty. If I plead guilty I would send it in and they would advise the fine/penaly. Not guilt you have to appear. I did not want to plead guilty becuase I did not think I was doing 80 in a 50 like the ticket said - plus I had not idea of the penalties since they were not listed on the ticket. So I pleaded not guilty and will get a date in court | ||
| Tillman Strahan (Tillman)
Junior Member Username: Tillman Post Number: 188 Registered: 11-2001 |
Here in Texas we have a thing called "Deferred Adjudication." Basically, you pay the fine, promise to be a nice boy for 90-180 days within that city, and the ticket goes away. Of course, if you're caught speeding within that timeframe, both tickets hit the record. I was on DA in 7 separate cities at the same time during a bad stretch 2 years ago. Nothing ever showed up on my record. I've calmed down a bit since then  | ||
| Matt Lemus (Mlemus)
Member Username: Mlemus Post Number: 782 Registered: 8-2002 |
Tom, Tell them you know Jonas. M | ||
| TomD (Tifosi)
Intermediate Member Username: Tifosi Post Number: 1925 Registered: 9-2001 |
yeah funny thing was he implied that going 70s was ok - he was as was traffic but once I hit 80 (or so he says) he had to pull me over. I think he was just pissed that I had the balls to go faster than him. He asked me if I noticed the picket fence sign on the side of the road - I was like no (what the hell is a picket fence sign) - that was his way of referring to those old fashion speed limit signs - WTF | ||
| BretM (Bretm)
Advanced Member Username: Bretm Post Number: 2993 Registered: 2-2001 |
I f#*king hate that road. It was the only place I could see you doing 80 in a 50, especially not in the Fcar. I go up it all the time to my dad's girlfriend's house to meet them for dinner, etc. It's like Alice in Wonderland, insane to have a 50mph zone, there's nothing to hit on it, etc and it makes it totally at the discretion of the cop as to whether or not you get screwed. Just for you guys that aren't familiar, the traffic usually flows at like 70 on it (it's a 50) so how right is the government decided speed limit. Damn the man, always trying to pull us down...bastards. | ||
| TomD (Tifosi)
Intermediate Member Username: Tifosi Post Number: 1923 Registered: 9-2001 |
Bret how did you know, I was really stupid and not paying attention, he was in a chevy van in front of me doing high 60s with everyone else, I went by slowly and was in front of him for a couple of miles and he pulled me over right before I was going to get off, damn I was pissed, I should have been more careful. I thought he would let me off but when he was in his truck for 10 minutes I knew better. I think the reason I got the ticket was I was in NY with NJ plates - cops love to hit those out of state cars BTW I was on the way back from hunting in NY and I was waiting for him to ask me if I had a gun in the car. | ||
| Nebula Class (Nebulaclass)
New member Username: Nebulaclass Post Number: 11 Registered: 11-2002 |
You can always go get a professional Speedometer calibration. Usually, the factory speedo will be inaccurate, and if you bring proof to the judge, he/she might take mercy. It costs a few bucks, but it beats the price of a ticket PLUS insurance increases. Also, if you are a veteran, you can get veteran plates from the DMV. I got them when I got out of the Marine Corps, and cops would literally ignore me most of the time. | ||
| BretM (Bretm)
Advanced Member Username: Bretm Post Number: 2988 Registered: 2-2001 |
Was it on the Palisades Parkway? If you don't know anyone that can help (police chiefs, etc) then the best thing to do IMO is go to the court date and state your case. Just for going in they always drop down the ticket, if you go in looking really remorseful and like a father trying to juggle a million family things, etc it always helps. The big thing is getting them to drop the points so insurance surcharges don't kick in. First ticket ever I would think they could cut you some slack if you bring it up and all. I've never gotten a ticket (knock on wood big time) but when I was on rescue we were always hanging out at around 7 oclock when court would open on Tuesday or Wednesday in my town. You could always see who was gonna get their tickets reduced and who wasn't gonna get much slack, etc. | ||
| TomD (Tifosi)
Intermediate Member Username: Tifosi Post Number: 1921 Registered: 9-2001 |
Got one the other day, not in the f-car, passed an out of jurisdiction cop on the highway - he drove with me a few miles and pulled me over as we went into his area. Says I was doing 80 in a 50. I was certainly going over 50 but don't beleive I hit 80. I was basically moving a little faster than the normal flow of traffic Do I fight it to get it reduced. This is my first ever ticket in 16 years. |