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Jason Williams (Pristines4)
Junior Member Username: Pristines4
Post Number: 144 Registered: 12-2002
| Posted on Monday, February 24, 2003 - 7:13 pm: | |
Is this one of the model with the stock altezza tale lights? I agree with what was said before - S2000. IMO, MUCH better looking car, more reliable, and faster. |
Brian Saligman (Brisalig)
Junior Member Username: Brisalig
Post Number: 57 Registered: 8-2002
| Posted on Monday, February 24, 2003 - 6:33 pm: | |
Charles, everything is an opinion! You did not upset me at all, I hope we can still be friends, it just made me think. I happen to like it, many of my friends do, but most importantly I like it. |
Charles Barton (Airbarton)
Member Username: Airbarton
Post Number: 311 Registered: 11-2002
| Posted on Monday, February 24, 2003 - 4:28 pm: | |
Brian, if I offended you by calling the Eclipes a chick car I apologise. I meant no offense at all, it was just pure opinion. You know how opinions are, they don't mean squat! This whole thing is all about personal taste. If you like the car get it and don't worry about what anyone else thinks. |
Charles Barton (Airbarton)
Member Username: Airbarton
Post Number: 310 Registered: 11-2002
| Posted on Monday, February 24, 2003 - 4:24 pm: | |
Sounds like a nice ride Jere! I have actually considered getting back into it myself. I thought it might be nice to build and old chevy or something just to take to the track on weekends. I gotta get the whole idea past my wife first. She is already not to happy about the Ferrari if you know what I mean! |
Tyler (Bahiaau)
Member Username: Bahiaau
Post Number: 550 Registered: 12-2001
| Posted on Monday, February 24, 2003 - 3:59 pm: | |
Brian You should go drive a 00 or 01 Honda S2000. That should be around the same price as the Mitsu and would be a lot more fun and much better looking. |
Brian Saligman (Brisalig)
Junior Member Username: Brisalig
Post Number: 55 Registered: 8-2002
| Posted on Monday, February 24, 2003 - 3:50 pm: | |
Guys guys guys guys....I DONT WANT A 10 SECOND CAR!!! I THOUGHT IT MIGHT BE NICE TO HAVE A CONVERTIBLE. I DROVE IT, AND LIKED IT. The GTS is fast enough for me...I DONT WANT A 10 SECOND CAR!! I JUST WANTED AN OPINION ABOUT WHICH I SHOULD GET...coupe or spider. by the way, I really dont think its a chick car. A jetta is a chick car...certainly...but not an Eclipse GTS spider. |
Jere Dunham (Questioner)
Junior Member Username: Questioner
Post Number: 139 Registered: 1-2003
| Posted on Monday, February 24, 2003 - 3:17 pm: | |
My altered dynoed at the rear wheels at a little over 650 hp. When it hooked up, it was an awesome ride. I mean, 96 inch wheelbase with an engine like that could get hairy. I saw the guardrail coming at me many a time when I got crossed up. Fortunately, I never tagged one. To get a legal door slammer into the 10's would be quite costly. Many people (ricers in particular) like to spout off how their car will run in the nine's. I watched Gene Snow and the Ramchargers when they made their first 9 second passes together in their old hemi altered wheelbase funny cars. It took some real crankin' on their part to get there. Getting into the 12's is a blast for someone who has not run real 1/4 mile drag racing before. You do not realize just how quick that is until you get to do it. I had a 68 Olds 442 that I put a Crower roller into, Jahns pistons, ported, polished, Doug's headers, 4:56 gears and all. I upgraded the suspension, lightened where I could. Had a Tarantula high-rise intake and a 750 cfm gas drinker. Loads of fun street car-ran 12's. Car cost me a total of approximately $20K when all was said and done. That was in the middle 70's. Do not know how much it would cost to do that now. |
Charles Barton (Airbarton)
Member Username: Airbarton
Post Number: 309 Registered: 11-2002
| Posted on Monday, February 24, 2003 - 12:32 pm: | |
Very true, the regal is a quick car. In fact the king of the regals, the GNX was a real monster. Here are some specs on the car That I got from www.musculecarclub.com Production: Grand Nationals: 20,193 GNX: 547 Engines: Grand National: 3.8L V6 Turbo 245 bhp @ 4400 rpm, 355 ft-lb @ 2000 rpm. GNX: 3.8L V6 Turbo 276 bhp @ 4400 rpm, 360 ft-lb @ 3000 rpm. Performance: Grand National: 1/4 mile in 14.23 seconds @ 98 mph. GNX: 0-60 in 5.5 seconds, 1/4 mile in 13.43 seconds @ 103 mph. The GNX was no slouch for sure. You can clearly see it would not take much effort to get it into the 12's! |
Tim N (Timn88)
Intermediate Member Username: Timn88
Post Number: 2471 Registered: 6-2001
| Posted on Monday, February 24, 2003 - 11:50 am: | |
True, getting into the 10's with $10k is not very likely with a turbo regal, but you could get pretty close. they are cheap to make fast. |
Charles Barton (Airbarton)
Member Username: Airbarton
Post Number: 306 Registered: 11-2002
| Posted on Monday, February 24, 2003 - 10:34 am: | |
Tim, I am not trying to be a butt, but I seriously doubt the Regal will make it into the 10's for $10K. I really don't think you realize what it takes to go that fast in the 1/4. I remember when the Turbo Regals came out and if I am not mistaken they were running in the low 14's stock. Even if it was running 12's it would still take a whole lot of work to pick up the extra 2 seconds. We are talking about a pile of horsepower here. My Pro Street car was running around 500bhp, was lightened significantly, had a 9" ford rearend with 486 Richmonds and a 4 link, 10 point cage, reengineered 350 turbo tranny with a high stall converter and lightning rod shifter, Nitrous, and slicks and it still only ran 10's. The rear end alone cost $5K to build. Engine and tranny was $12K. That is already $17K and we haven't even added the cost of the chasis work. Here is a picture of the car. I was @ Riverside raceway that day running Mickey Thompson street tires. The car was running in the 11's mostly because I could not get it to hook up. Believe me when I tell you it is not easy or cheap to get a car to go that fast in the 1/4 mile.  |
Tim N (Timn88)
Intermediate Member Username: Timn88
Post Number: 2470 Registered: 6-2001
| Posted on Monday, February 24, 2003 - 9:58 am: | |
I think you might be able to get a turbo regal into the 10's for not to much more than $10k. |
Charles Barton (Airbarton)
Member Username: Airbarton
Post Number: 305 Registered: 11-2002
| Posted on Monday, February 24, 2003 - 9:57 am: | |
Thanks for the back up Jere! |
Jere Dunham (Questioner)
Junior Member Username: Questioner
Post Number: 135 Registered: 1-2003
| Posted on Monday, February 24, 2003 - 9:49 am: | |
I ran a '23 Ford t-bucket fiberglass altered on a full tube chasis with a Keith Black built big block on gas that ran high 8's / 165 mph NHRA. Car cost me over $40,000 to put together. Like it was said, the engine cost over $10,000. I do not think you can get a safety legal car to run 9's for under 10K. I would have to see it. |
Tim N (Timn88)
Intermediate Member Username: Timn88
Post Number: 2469 Registered: 6-2001
| Posted on Monday, February 24, 2003 - 9:49 am: | |
Yes, eclipses fit in the catagory of cute girls cars. They share this catagory with civics, jettas, and new beetles. |
Charles Barton (Airbarton)
Member Username: Airbarton
Post Number: 303 Registered: 11-2002
| Posted on Monday, February 24, 2003 - 9:20 am: | |
I don't mean to be difficult but I think it is a bit of a stretch to say you could run 9's for $10K. I use to run a 10.50 car in NHRA div. 2 that cost me $30K to build. The engine alone was $10K. It takes a lot of equipment to make a car go 9 seconds in the 1/4 mile. As far as the Eclipes is concerened, it is a chick car. My daughter has one and though it is a nice little car, you wouldn't find me driven it unless I had too! No offense, just my two cents worth. |
Mitchell L. Davidson (Jussumfastgi)
Member Username: Jussumfastgi
Post Number: 490 Registered: 4-2002
| Posted on Sunday, February 23, 2003 - 10:30 pm: | |
If you want 1/4th mile cars, buy some old junker, put a build engine into it + rear end and tires and run 9's for 10k... |
Jason Williams (Pristines4)
Junior Member Username: Pristines4
Post Number: 140 Registered: 12-2002
| Posted on Sunday, February 23, 2003 - 6:47 pm: | |
I once went into a Mitsu dealership and was talking to the sales guys. They said I could get a brand new, full loaded Eclispe for something like $30k (can't remember exactly). The thing my friends and I thought was funny, is I could put up an extra $2k, and buy a brand new (at the time) Camaro SS. A poorly built Mitsu that runs 15's, or an SS that runs low 13's/high 12's. The choice seemed obvious. Too bad I don't want either. |
Mitchell L. Davidson (Jussumfastgi)
Member Username: Jussumfastgi
Post Number: 488 Registered: 4-2002
| Posted on Sunday, February 23, 2003 - 2:40 pm: | |
Get a Toyota MR2 spider instead. Much better car. |
Brian Saligman (Brisalig)
Junior Member Username: Brisalig
Post Number: 54 Registered: 8-2002
| Posted on Sunday, February 23, 2003 - 9:20 am: | |
Yesterday, I was driving by a Mitsubishi dealer, and on an impulse stopped in. On the floor they had an 03 Eclipse Coupe GTS, so I was checking it out for a while. One of the salesguys started a convo with me, and sooner or later we were talking about a 2003 Mitsubishi Eclipse GTS Spider. He had on with a 5-speed in the titanium color. (lots like the bmw steel grey) It was a beautiful car. I went for a drive with him, and it was really really really a blast to drive. (210 hp V6--sounds like a sports car) I have never driven a convertible before, and there is quite a large blindspot to the rear on both sides, due to the softop, much bigger than my QX4. The rear window is also small, however its made of glass and its heated. I think I would really love to have the top down for those nice days, but the car will also spend lots of time with the top up. What do you guys think? Is it worth it for the spider?? http://www.mitsubishimotors.com |