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Adam A (Fasttalk)
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Username: Fasttalk

Post Number: 50
Registered: 8-2002
Posted on Thursday, March 06, 2003 - 11:21 pm:   

Just spent $80 to fill up my hummer, worth every penny. I drive it all over town, its a total blast.

Adam
Taek-Ho Kwon (Stickanddice)
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Username: Stickanddice

Post Number: 107
Registered: 11-2002
Posted on Wednesday, March 05, 2003 - 8:46 pm:   

I've been seeing a lot of Humvees for sale.

They do all seem to be diesel. Pretty cheap too. Apparently the last year the Humvees were allowed to be sold to civilians was 1987. Does that sound right?

They also have a lightweight body I hear. Is it that the body panels are different or are they lighter simply because they don't have the interior amenities a Hummer would?
Horsefly (Arlie)
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Username: Arlie

Post Number: 837
Registered: 5-2002
Posted on Wednesday, March 05, 2003 - 4:31 pm:   

I was in touch with a guy a few months ago who was suppose to be getting a few genuine military surplus HUMVEEs. But his deal fell through. Were all the military HUMVEEs diesel powered? I can't say that I like the idea of a diesel anyway.
Ben Lobenstein 90 TR (Benjet)
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Username: Benjet

Post Number: 1025
Registered: 1-2001
Posted on Wednesday, March 05, 2003 - 3:08 pm:   

Arlie,

Apologies to you as well, I didn't see the other thread. My point with the Tahoe/frame discussion is that it's not frame/chassis swappable with anything else, like Tahoe/Escalade/Pickup Truck, etc.

-Ben
Bill Steele (Glassman)
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Username: Glassman

Post Number: 165
Registered: 4-2002
Posted on Tuesday, March 04, 2003 - 9:01 pm:   

Just wondering. Do any of you guy's live in remote areas, or in smaller towns that get a lot of winter? I can understand it if you live in LA, but here in Montana, the Hummer rules. My wife drove one for several years, and in the winter, in deep snow 3 to 4 Ft, with ice, lots of it, it's really nice to lumber home on the highway,
in the dead of winter, in 3 feet of snow, at about 60 MPH!
Tyler (Bahiaau)
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Username: Bahiaau

Post Number: 583
Registered: 12-2001
Posted on Tuesday, March 04, 2003 - 3:09 pm:   

It appears it is a combo of both the Tahoe and the Suburban. You have to scroll down past the Saab article to get to the H2 info.

http://www.roadandtrack.com/news/ampersand/PrintArticle.asp?ArticleID=263
Tyler (Bahiaau)
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Username: Bahiaau

Post Number: 582
Registered: 12-2001
Posted on Tuesday, March 04, 2003 - 2:54 pm:   

Arlie, that was me(foot in mouth)

http://www.ferrarichat.com/discus/messages/132929/193004.html


"Arlie, I think the H2 is built on the Tahoe chassis."

I "thought" I had the winning lottery numbers last week too, LOL. Sorry for the misinformation.
Horsefly (Arlie)
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Username: Arlie

Post Number: 831
Registered: 5-2002
Posted on Tuesday, March 04, 2003 - 2:01 pm:   

Ben, thanks for the SECOND minor correction. A few weeks ago on an identical thread, I repeated what I had heard about the H2 being built on a Suburban frame. Someone corrected me by saying that they were built on a Tahoe frame. I figured that they knew more than I did, so I passed it on. I guess they were incorrect.

Kenny Herman (Kennyh)
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Username: Kennyh

Post Number: 625
Registered: 8-2001
Posted on Tuesday, March 04, 2003 - 1:32 pm:   

Tom, I agree with you, but unfortunately, not everyone can afford a car that will loose half its value in two years (or such).
Tom RM (Tgitom)
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Username: Tgitom

Post Number: 57
Registered: 8-2002
Posted on Tuesday, March 04, 2003 - 1:28 pm:   

shouldnt everyone buy a car cause they desire it or want it? I can understand a little bit about depreciation but hey thats going to happen, its a car. I would say dont buy a car based on how it will depreciate buy it cuase you want to drive it and enjoy it!
Ben Lobenstein 90 TR (Benjet)
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Username: Benjet

Post Number: 1017
Registered: 1-2001
Posted on Monday, March 03, 2003 - 10:35 pm:   

Arlie,

"3. The General Motors H2 which is a HUMVEE look-a-like that is built on a Chevy Tahoe
chassis."...

IIRC the H2 has a 5" wider wheelbase and therefore is built on it's own chassis, common misconception that they are on the Tahoe frame.

-Ben

P.S. Anyone know why I said "They are all lobsters?"
djmonk (Davem)
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Username: Davem

Post Number: 193
Registered: 1-2002
Posted on Monday, March 03, 2003 - 10:34 pm:   

Drove briefly the H1. Could not get used to that big windshield divider, plus they depreciate big time. Both are deceptivly cramped inside considering how much real estate they take up.
Kuzman (Kzma)
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Username: Kzma

Post Number: 1
Registered: 3-2003
Posted on Monday, March 03, 2003 - 10:23 pm:   

I have driven both. The H1 drives like what you would imagine a semi drives like and the H2 drives very similar to a Tahoe. Interior materials are way cheap....imho
Taek-Ho Kwon (Stickanddice)
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Username: Stickanddice

Post Number: 103
Registered: 11-2002
Posted on Monday, March 03, 2003 - 10:15 pm:   

Thanks for the clarification.

I want a Humvee then!
Horsefly (Arlie)
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Username: Arlie

Post Number: 829
Registered: 5-2002
Posted on Monday, March 03, 2003 - 10:09 pm:   

Once again, I don't think you guys are all discussing the same vehicle. There are 3 types.

1. The military 4WD vehicle called the HUMVEE.
2. The civilian version of the HUMVEE called the
Hummer which is a civilianized version of the
HUMVEE with a more comfortable interior.
3. The General Motors H2 which is a HUMVEE
look-a-like that is built on a Chevy Tahoe
chassis. Basically resembles a goofy looking
HUMVEE. A sheep in wolf's clothing.



Jason Williams (Pristines4)
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Username: Pristines4

Post Number: 158
Registered: 12-2002
Posted on Monday, March 03, 2003 - 10:02 pm:   

If I could afford one in the first place, gas would be the least of my worries.
Kenny Herman (Kennyh)
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Username: Kennyh

Post Number: 621
Registered: 8-2001
Posted on Monday, March 03, 2003 - 9:56 pm:   

Why do you need a drag Hummer H2? With 500hp and all that mass, it would still be slow, why use even more gas?

The H2 is good for what it is, a people mover, a head turner, and an inclement weather golf club car.
Taek-Ho Kwon (Stickanddice)
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Username: Stickanddice

Post Number: 102
Registered: 11-2002
Posted on Monday, March 03, 2003 - 9:55 pm:   

Ouch.

Makes me sad when any car gets totalled. Sorry to hear that.
Jason Williams (Pristines4)
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Username: Pristines4

Post Number: 157
Registered: 12-2002
Posted on Monday, March 03, 2003 - 9:53 pm:   

I can't remember who, but one company (Callaway I think) came out with a super charger for the H2 that puts out 500 +/- HP.

With the supercharger is the only way I would want an H2. Stock for stock, I'd rather drive an H1.
BretM (Bretm)
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Username: Bretm

Post Number: 3200
Registered: 2-2001
Posted on Monday, March 03, 2003 - 9:40 pm:   

The turbodiesel will top out at like 100, it's quicker than my Wrangler (not that that says much, lol). Raining, a few telephone poles, assorted signs, and a stone wall = totalled Hummer.
Taek-Ho Kwon (Stickanddice)
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Username: Stickanddice

Post Number: 97
Registered: 11-2002
Posted on Monday, March 03, 2003 - 9:08 pm:   

How in the world do you total a Hummer?

They crawl everywhere so you never actually go fast enough to cause significant damage to yourself and they're practically indestructible off road.

I had a friend with a good Hummer experience. Really stupid car, but I have to agree with Matt. Everyone wants a Hummer! It sucked to sit in but it was a blast to drive. I'd consider getting one, and since I'd be doing the ridiculous, I'd look out for one of the military ones. I heard that there are differences (anyone know?) Gut the thing and put a quasicomfortable interior in it.

That middle console is so damn huge you could probably fit a decent size plasma TV there...
Dave (Maranelloman)
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Username: Maranelloman

Post Number: 832
Registered: 1-2002
Posted on Monday, March 03, 2003 - 9:00 pm:   

"Ah just LOVE hummers!!"

--William Jefferson "Slick Willie" Clinton
Ben Lobenstein 90 TR (Benjet)
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Username: Benjet

Post Number: 1014
Registered: 1-2001
Posted on Monday, March 03, 2003 - 6:59 pm:   

They are all lobsters.
-Ben
Matt Lemus (Mlemus)
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Username: Mlemus

Post Number: 2624
Registered: 8-2002
Posted on Monday, March 03, 2003 - 5:50 pm:   

Come on Guys....everyone wants a Hummer!

I want to get my wife a H2 and she said no. Her complaint was that there is not enought seating compaired to our 02 exploder with the ligitation and rollover package.
BretM (Bretm)
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Username: Bretm

Post Number: 3198
Registered: 2-2001
Posted on Monday, March 03, 2003 - 5:37 pm:   

One of my friends used to have an H1 back like 3 or 4 years ago, before he totalled it. Cool as hell, but he got like 6mpg and with diesels prices as they are now at $2.00 a gallon... Granted he couldn't care less about gas prices, but for me that would be a little much considering how much I drive and my not inheriting millions of dollars. Couldn't keep up with the Jeep in the woods, but forget about anything open, you could take wopdedoos at like 50mph in the Hummer which is insane. On the topic of the H2, I would take it long before anything else in that price range. Maybe someday if I'm rich I'll get an H1, they're getting kind of common now though with the whole buy one at your local Chevy dealership though.
Marq J Ruben (Qferrari)
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Username: Qferrari

Post Number: 230
Registered: 2-2002
Posted on Monday, March 03, 2003 - 4:56 pm:   

No thank you.Upload
Eric Eiland (Eric308gtsiqv)
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Username: Eric308gtsiqv

Post Number: 626
Registered: 11-2001
Posted on Monday, March 03, 2003 - 4:40 pm:   

Thanks, Erik! Also, thank you for the clarification on the upcoming H2 SUT....I had been wondering what the true facts were on that. BTW, I do really like the H2 in the grey color -- it doesn't appear to be as overwhelming as the other colors.
TomD (Tifosi)
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Username: Tifosi

Post Number: 2900
Registered: 9-2001
Posted on Monday, March 03, 2003 - 4:27 pm:   

dave, I will share your view with my wife :-)
Erik Smith (Teenferrarifan)
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Username: Teenferrarifan

Post Number: 10
Registered: 2-2003
Posted on Monday, March 03, 2003 - 4:10 pm:   

Eric,
Nice name, But the H2 will still sell for around 50-60k but in the next year GM will bring out a new hummer called the H2 SUT which will cost about 30k-40 and will be essentially an h2 with a truck bed. Think Escalade EXT
Erik
BobD (Bobd)
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Username: Bobd

Post Number: 1062
Registered: 3-2001
Posted on Monday, March 03, 2003 - 4:03 pm:   

Don't kid yourself, these things are still Chevy's so you can expect Chevy quality. It's no wonder their resale values will drop quickly and reliability will be much less than average.
Dave Shears (Daveshears)
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Username: Daveshears

Post Number: 46
Registered: 3-2001
Posted on Monday, March 03, 2003 - 4:00 pm:   

I was told by mechanics that worked on the earley hummers to stay away from them as they had many issues. I don't know about the current models.
Eric Eiland (Eric308gtsiqv)
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Username: Eric308gtsiqv

Post Number: 623
Registered: 11-2001
Posted on Monday, March 03, 2003 - 3:56 pm:   

Speaking of H1's going for under $35k...one client of mine who bought a black "special ed." H2, mentioned that his salesman told him that the new production H2's will be dropping in price over the next year or so to around mid 30's -- has anyone heard this? Man, I'd hate to be the guy shelling out 60k for one now, just to see them sell for half that in the near future.
Dave (Maranelloman)
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Username: Maranelloman

Post Number: 830
Registered: 1-2002
Posted on Monday, March 03, 2003 - 3:55 pm:   

I'm sorry, but I think BOTH are as ugly as sin, and reflect poorly on the driver's, um, "equipment package", if ya know what I mean here...
TomD (Tifosi)
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Username: Tifosi

Post Number: 2899
Registered: 9-2001
Posted on Monday, March 03, 2003 - 3:54 pm:   

you also can't drive them in some parking garages without getting a haircut :-)
BobD (Bobd)
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Username: Bobd

Post Number: 1061
Registered: 3-2001
Posted on Monday, March 03, 2003 - 3:49 pm:   

I think they're novelty items right now for people who have a few extra bucks in their pocket and just want to be different. I'll bet within a few years, they'll go the way of the Ford Excursion. Discontinued.
arthur chambers (Art355)
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Username: Art355

Post Number: 1009
Registered: 6-2001
Posted on Monday, March 03, 2003 - 3:48 pm:   

If you're going to get one or the other, no Hummerlight. I'd take an H1, but I wouldn't get a new one. It would be great to go to Tahoe, because in the Winter, it is difficult to get to my place even with a Jeep. I understand the older H1s are going for under 35K.

Art
Eric Eiland (Eric308gtsiqv)
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Username: Eric308gtsiqv

Post Number: 621
Registered: 11-2001
Posted on Monday, March 03, 2003 - 3:41 pm:   

LOL, Tillman! Yes, they are all over the place here as well. A buddy of mine (also owns a yellow 360) bought a yellow H2 to match his F-car -- he loves it. I have several clients who have bought H2's recently also -- they seem to be the latest rage. Personally, I think the yellow H2 looks like a squashed school bus . And I thought my Chevy 4-door 2500 HD truck was big...those H2's are huge. Wonder what kind of turning radius those things have. I have enough trouble doing a U-turn in the truck.
Tillman Strahan (Tillman)
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Username: Tillman

Post Number: 401
Registered: 11-2001
Posted on Monday, March 03, 2003 - 3:29 pm:   

The H2 is the world's most ridiculous Chevy Surburban. They're all over the Metroplex, and they're all seem to be driven by soccer moms. The only time one of those is going offroad down here is when they back over the flowerbed.
John (Modenaf1fan)
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Post Number: 175
Registered: 11-2002
Posted on Monday, March 03, 2003 - 3:26 pm:   

my town has H2's all over:-)
Omar (Auraraptor)
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Username: Auraraptor

Post Number: 367
Registered: 9-2002
Posted on Monday, March 03, 2003 - 3:13 pm:   

H1...but its too big for the city.. so Range rovers are best....H2s dont register here :-)
TomD (Tifosi)
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Username: Tifosi

Post Number: 2895
Registered: 9-2001
Posted on Monday, March 03, 2003 - 3:01 pm:   

My wife is interested in an H2, not sure if I am willing to foot the bill for gas, though.
Willis Huang (Willis360)
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Username: Willis360

Post Number: 1160
Registered: 8-2001
Posted on Monday, March 03, 2003 - 2:57 pm:   

Yeah, very large indeed. Around here, the H1's are mostly driven by Microsoft guys. I've noticed that H2 drivers tend to be tiny females.
BobD (Bobd)
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Username: Bobd

Post Number: 1060
Registered: 3-2001
Posted on Monday, March 03, 2003 - 2:50 pm:   

I think they are very large.
Erik Smith (Teenferrarifan)
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Post Number: 9
Registered: 2-2003
Posted on Monday, March 03, 2003 - 2:42 pm:   

Guys wanted to know your opinion on the truck. Also if anyone in the southeastern PA, NJ, or DE area are looking to buy one please let me know. I work part time at Armen hummer in ardmore and if interested could get a few thousand off sticker for H2's and much more than that off H1's. The H1 isn't selling that great and I can get anyone on this board a great deal. Drop me an email if interested at [email protected]. Or you can call the dealership and ask for Tod Gomer he is the head of the dealership at 1-866-pa-hummer. Don't forget to mention Erik Panichi (smith is my middle name) told you to call. There are also a couple used H1's on hand. let me know
Erik

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