| Author | Message | ||
| James Glickenhaus (Napolis)
Member Username: Napolis Post Number: 833 Registered: 10-2002 |
It's funny how you become a HP junky. The 450 turbo does give you a fix. | ||
| Kenny Herman (Kennyh)
Member Username: Kennyh Post Number: 676 Registered: 8-2001 |
I hope you have better luck then my family did! Who helped you? I know a few guys at the Porsche dealer there... | ||
| James Glickenhaus (Napolis)
Member Username: Napolis Post Number: 832 Registered: 10-2002 |
No but with my relationship with the owner who set this up for me as a WWOC customer I'm sure it will be fine and so far they seem very helpfull and knowledgeble. | ||
| Kenny Herman (Kennyh)
Member Username: Kennyh Post Number: 675 Registered: 8-2001 |
James, have you ordered from New Country before? My family has had 'bad luck' with our Audi A6 from them. Not a chance in hell my dad would get a car from them. Bad service. | ||
| James Glickenhaus (Napolis)
Member Username: Napolis Post Number: 829 Registered: 10-2002 |
It's a new P color dark (candy apple) metalic red. Sand interior with dark wood. Very fully optioned. New Country (The same owner as WWOC) They're building it in May should be here end of June. In real life it's much more impressive that in pics. It feels like very fast M5. Very car like. No Turbo lag. Huge brakes that really work. Quiet but nice exhaust note. | ||
| Kenny Herman (Kennyh)
Member Username: Kennyh Post Number: 674 Registered: 8-2001 |
James, awesome! What color/trim? When's it due to arrive? What dealership do you use? | ||
| James Glickenhaus (Napolis)
Member Username: Napolis Post Number: 828 Registered: 10-2002 |
Just drove and switched order to turbo. This is one bitchin' vehicle. | ||
| Kenny Herman (Kennyh)
Member Username: Kennyh Post Number: 671 Registered: 8-2001 |
Jeff, the G-Wagon is definetly the coolest car Mercedes makes, even cooler then the SL55... My cousin had one back in the day when it was only imported through New Mexico. We used to drive through NYC and people would have no idea what it was, just that it was soo freaking cool. Nice car! | ||
| Jeff (Jeff_m)
Junior Member Username: Jeff_m Post Number: 97 Registered: 9-2002 |
My Gwagen will go where that Porsche only dreams about! As far as 0 to 60, who cares, its an SUV.The G has its own identity and following much like Ferraris, unlike 99% of the latest and greatest here today gone tomorrow SUV's.My G500 gets almost as much attention and interest as my 355. | ||
| James Glickenhaus (Napolis)
Member Username: Napolis Post Number: 818 Registered: 10-2002 |
Why pay over MSRP? I didn't have too. There are plenty available in the NY area. | ||
| Martin - Cavallino Motors (Miami348ts)
Advanced Member Username: Miami348ts Post Number: 4021 Registered: 5-2001 |
I know of a Turbo for sale immediately, $ 5K above MSRP. | ||
| Joseph (Mojo)
Member Username: Mojo Post Number: 297 Registered: 9-2002 |
How did Aztect come in to play? I must have hurt someones feeling. Can't wait for Ferrari to make an SUV. | ||
| James Glickenhaus (Napolis)
Member Username: Napolis Post Number: 808 Registered: 10-2002 |
Nika Perhaps my wife should race you. It's her car and I must admit she breaks for various things as well. At my age I'm afraid that the sunscreen and pain killer's I'd need would weigh me down. (Check out the article about the Journalists who rode along with Vasser on the Baha 2000 in Car and Driver) As much as I like Maser (I have a new FI coupe) I doubt the Kabang will keep up with this thing. If you drive one you may change your mind. It's pretty wild and in the metal the interior is great and in deep red metallic it doesn't look too bad either. Best Jim | ||
| Nika (Racernika)
Member Username: Racernika Post Number: 850 Registered: 12-2001 |
LOL I don't know Jim - I "brake" for shoe stores! Not impressed with the Porsche SUV - I'd rather drive the Maserati one. I think the x-5 have been recalled recently.....if I remember hearing correctly | ||
| James Glickenhaus (Napolis)
Member Username: Napolis Post Number: 806 Registered: 10-2002 |
Nika Any time you want to race me Paris to Dakar you in your Jeep me in my Cayanne turbo I'm ready. Best Jim | ||
| Ming Cheng (Onlinesys)
Junior Member Username: Onlinesys Post Number: 233 Registered: 5-2002 |
Hi Guys/Gals, You really have to see the car in person as the photos don't justify and you will be more impressed although I could not afford a brand new one after the new tax scheme imposed onto the luxury cars (talking about 30-40% more in the retail price) | ||
| Nika (Racernika)
Member Username: Racernika Post Number: 848 Registered: 12-2001 |
Are we talking about the Porsche Canine.......because it's a DOG | ||
| Jeffrey Caspar (Jcaspar1)
Junior Member Username: Jcaspar1 Post Number: 80 Registered: 5-2002 |
I'm tired of people bashing the Aztec, Just accept change, your going to die some day anyhow so you should learn to embrace change. Because everything changes except change itself Plus it does look great and one of the safest SUVs in a roll over there is. Nuff said.  | ||
| Joseph (Mojo)
Member Username: Mojo Post Number: 295 Registered: 9-2002 |
Im tired of people bashing the cayenne, Just accept change, your going to die some day anyhow so you should learn to embrace change. Because everything changes except change itself Plus it does look great and is the fastest suv there is. Nuff said. | ||
| Kenny Herman (Kennyh)
Member Username: Kennyh Post Number: 663 Registered: 8-2001 |
James, if you ever want a son, I'm up for adoption! I wouldn't mind being king. | ||
| James Glickenhaus (Napolis)
Member Username: Napolis Post Number: 797 Registered: 10-2002 |
WM That sounds like a great idea. I wonder how long it'd be before she realized I'd snipped a plug wire or two? Kenny As far as the Duesey goes she likes sitting in the back "Where the Queen sat" as she puts it. | ||
| Kenny Herman (Kennyh)
Member Username: Kennyh Post Number: 662 Registered: 8-2001 |
Will, That's exactly what my parents did, they got me a 160hp 1.9t Volvo- which was perfect for me to get used to. We just got rid of it actually. Really nice car, but once I hit 20k+ miles, it started falling apart. I believe the C60 is coming out (the C70 based off the S60 so its less expensive) in the next year, thats a really nice 2 door coupe for her. | ||
| Kenny Herman (Kennyh)
Member Username: Kennyh Post Number: 661 Registered: 8-2001 |
James, I'm assuming she shares the same passion as you do for cars? I wish my dad liked cars half as much as me. If she likes cars, why get a truck? Let her drive the Dusenberg to school! | ||
| wm hart (Whart)
Member Username: Whart Post Number: 791 Registered: 12-2001 |
Jim: I'd buy her a really underpowered Volvo. The idea of an inexperienced driver handling a truck, let alone a superpowered one is rather scary (for her and others), don't you think? | ||
| James Glickenhaus (Napolis)
Member Username: Napolis Post Number: 796 Registered: 10-2002 |
Kenny This one knows the difference... | ||
| Kenny Herman (Kennyh)
Member Username: Kennyh Post Number: 660 Registered: 8-2001 |
James, She would definetly kill me for giving you that advice but its true, student/kid drivers are just way to dangerous. Chances are you could get her a car that is just as cool as the Porsche and she wouldn't know the difference, i.e. a Lexus IS300 or Audi A4... If you got her a nice beater for a few months, she'd appreciate the Porsche sooo much more. Hows that saying go again; "Once you get used to a luxury, it becomes a necessity"? You can't really go up from a Porsche truck . | ||
| James Glickenhaus (Napolis)
Member Username: Napolis Post Number: 792 Registered: 10-2002 |
Kenny You've convinced me. I'm going to do just that when the time comes. I must warn you she's very good with a sword so when I tell her who advised me to get her a used tank I'd watch my back. Best Jim | ||
| Kenny Herman (Kennyh)
Member Username: Kennyh Post Number: 659 Registered: 8-2001 |
James, I'm in highschool and see all the new drivers and by far, the girls are always the worst and most dangerous- chances are they will crash their first car, even if its just backing up into another car, and the extra power of the Porsche won't help. Yeah, I'm still a kid- I'm a few days away from 18 and I drive a 3.0L BMW Z3 everyday- which I admit is pretty excessive for someone my age- but its a helluva lot of fun. I am the only one of my friends who hasn't got into an accident that they have caused. (I was hit by a snow plow at a stop sign a few months ago- which was covered by the plow). I have a girl-friend who drove an ML320 (a decent comparison to the Porsche considering size and such)- she ended up crashed it- which was expected, but she was also hit 4-5 times in the student parking lot by other new drivers. She now has a CLK430 AMG Sport I've lucked out. I'd say a good 50 percent of the cars in the lot are hit at some point or another becuase of bad inexperienced driving. I love driving my little BMW, but I started on a Volvo S40- something safe that isn't too quick which is pretty replacable. Maybe you should get her a used Jeep for a couple months- so she can learn to drive well... -Kenny | ||
| James Glickenhaus (Napolis)
Member Username: Napolis Post Number: 787 Registered: 10-2002 |
WM What if you had a 14 year old daughter who'll be driving in 2 years? Neb I take your point. | ||
| ross koller (Ross)
Member Username: Ross Post Number: 787 Registered: 3-2002 |
i was a cayenne skeptic. then i saw one in the flesh when i went skiing 2 weeks ago, and it is much more impressive than i thought, and it looks pretty good, as far as things go in suv world. the performance figures for the base model, blow the doors off the ml55 and x5 4.6, so the turbo model must just be a rocket that happens to have a 4x4's ability. i need 7 seats, and i don't like vans, so i usually end up with a mercedes station wagon, but if this thing had an extra 2 seats in back, i would strongly consider it....... | ||
| Nebula Class (Nebulaclass)
Member Username: Nebulaclass Post Number: 280 Registered: 11-2002 |
True James, but my point is this: The 911 chassis/body/susp. was created for one specific car - the 911. As a result, the cost of the design is spread heavily across the board of 911's only. Consequently, the price of a 911 is relatively high. The Cayenne chassis/body/susp. was created for two specific vehicles, one of which would be (sort-of) mass-produced. This allowed the cost of the development to be spread more thinly across the Porsche and VW line. Conseqently, the price of the vehicle does not reflect design costs as much as a 911, or an Enzo, does. | ||
| wm hart (Whart)
Member Username: Whart Post Number: 788 Registered: 12-2001 |
I still like that Lambo desert vehicle. But, truth be told, i am not enamored of trucks as "sports vehicles," "luxury passenger" coveyances or something in between. Nonetheless, i think that the G wagen is the real deal (in an elitest kind of way), the ML series MB's are are bad joke, and that if you were going to buy the Tabasco from Porsche, you'd be an idiot not to buy the Turbo. I mean, its not about practicality, utility or anything other than outrageous performance in sheep's clothing. Why settle for one without the juice, unless its just to have the badge? Otherwise, if its really about "truck," i'm sure there are many other vehicles that would serve the purpose, without the Porsche logo. | ||
| James Glickenhaus (Napolis)
Member Username: Napolis Post Number: 784 Registered: 10-2002 |
Nebula They're quite different esp. the Turbo. This platform will likely also be the basis for the Lambo V10 SUV. As Karl Marx said: "In the end there will be one Company and then the government will take it over." | ||
| Nebula Class (Nebulaclass)
Member Username: Nebulaclass Post Number: 278 Registered: 11-2002 |
The reason why the Cayenne is as cheap as a 911 is because it is a VW with Porsche badges. 'Nuff said. | ||
| James Glickenhaus (Napolis)
Member Username: Napolis Post Number: 782 Registered: 10-2002 |
The Cayanne Turbo is much faster. Top speed 165+. The ride height is adjustable from 5.5 inches to 11.5 inches. The price difference is about 11M between a fully loaded S and a turbo. To answer Des's question my wife's getting one I'll tell what she thinks. Best Jim | ||
| DES (Sickspeed)
Advanced Member Username: Sickspeed Post Number: 2801 Registered: 8-2002 |
Vernon, if at all possible, can you attempt to take the place of a 40+ mother of 2 children (ages 10 & 13) and give a review of the Cayenne from that point of view...? i'm DESperately trying to convince my Aunt to get it once her lease is up on the crappy Navigator she's got... Thanks... | ||
| Johns (Modenaf1fan)
Junior Member Username: Modenaf1fan Post Number: 203 Registered: 11-2002 |
the thing i dont like about it ...is that it sits tooo high..I hate that big gap bet/ the wheels and fender. | ||
| Jeffrey Caspar (Jcaspar1)
Junior Member Username: Jcaspar1 Post Number: 79 Registered: 5-2002 |
The Cayenne (or as it is not so affectionately called on the Porsche site: the Paprika) is just plain ugly. What is the point of this vehicle? Porsche should just stick to sport/GT cars and racing. It will only grow on me like mold | ||
| Ernesto (T88power)
Intermediate Member Username: T88power Post Number: 1340 Registered: 2-2001 |
I heard the new Infiniti SUV is faster than the base Cayenne. Is this true? I think the VW looks much better, built the same, and much cheaper. Ernesto | ||
| Kenny Herman (Kennyh)
Member Username: Kennyh Post Number: 645 Registered: 8-2001 |
But the MB is the ultimate off-road luxury truck- better then the Hummer, and chances are, when you need the truck- its inclement weather. Then and again, its your money. I think the Porsche'll definetly grow on all of us- what I don't get is how the Cayenne can be the same price as the Carrera and use the same materials- you figure they use twice the leather for the interior, same engine and just as much on research for the frame seeing the 996 is basically the same as the 993 and the rest of the Carrera chain. | ||
| Vernon Hill (Vwh3rd)
Junior Member Username: Vwh3rd Post Number: 89 Registered: 1-2003 |
I am definetly considering one. Probably not the Turbo, although it is awesome, I can't justify $100k for a truck. The G wagon is a tub, it is an old outdated Brinks truck with an S class interior. The Cayenne's competition is the BMW and the ML 55. Both Porsche's smoke the BMW and the MB! | ||
| Kenny Herman (Kennyh)
Member Username: Kennyh Post Number: 644 Registered: 8-2001 |
Would you consider spending that kind of cash on it? I'm sure because you're an MB man, you've driven the G55- how do they compare? | ||
| Vernon Hill (Vwh3rd)
Junior Member Username: Vwh3rd Post Number: 88 Registered: 1-2003 |
I drove the Cayenne S and Cayenne Twin Turbo today. The cars looks grow on you after a while, the interior is great and they both perform fantastic. For a truck it is pretty cool! |