| Author | Message | ||
| MFZ (Kiyoharu)
Junior Member Username: Kiyoharu Post Number: 240 Registered: 2-2003 |
I am always here, though in other rooms, since I find the "USA is better than everyone else, so bow before us or else!" rhetoric to be counter-productive. Right now, I post mostly in the Racing Fans room. Art got it right, the US are supposed to pay around 25% of their budget, based on their contribution to the world economy, and yes, there have been times where the US failed to pay their dues. Your percentages mean nothing if you don't even pay it. Also, there have been complaints that the US GDP makes more than all of the total GDP of Europe, but the whole of Europe pays more to the UN than the US (more means more than 25%, I assume). Other countries also failed a few times to make their payments as well, guess who they are? Yes, the French and the Russians. I used Google to find this info, so don't blame me if this info is incorrect. Anyway, what predictions that I made that has been disproven? WMDs? I still see no signs of them. In fact, in a recent speech, President Bush himself said that there might be no more WMDs in Iraqi hands. The general consensus is that it might take years before it might be found, by then all of it would probably be rendered harmless if there was any. What do you mean by the map of goodwill, Dave? We contribute and support all of the UN's programs and peacekeeping efforts, but since our country is small, so will the contribution and yet it is still proportional. I believe we even held the post of UNESCO chairman once before (you do know what UNESCO is, don't you)? As for the restaurant, I think the issue was blown to high proportions by the overzealous reporter looking for news, now that there's nothing exciting to report. Why was this situation allowed to go out of hand? Why didn't the company in charge of food services hired some temporary help to serve the UN delegates (which obviously would include the US as well) while they sort out the union problems (which reeks of Mafia involvement, this is New York afterall). Also, if items were stolen, why wasn't security or the police called? This wasn't in Baghdad, this is New York. Who was the high-ranking official who allowed the doors to be opened? Lots of questions, I suspect a cover up. | ||
| ross koller (Ross)
Intermediate Member Username: Ross Post Number: 1146 Registered: 3-2002 |
mfz, you are back ? nothing to say about any of your past accusations and predictions that have since been disproven? just stabbing in where you can huh? no attempts at maybe, just maybe conceding some arguments regarding your favorite dictator? | ||
| Dave (Maranelloman)
Intermediate Member Username: Maranelloman Post Number: 1417 Registered: 1-2002 |
MFZ, you missed my point. Where is Malaysia on this map of goodwill? Why are all of these agencies' overheads so damned high? And where is your outrage at these scumbags totally trashing the restaurants WE BUILT, just to steal some food??? Art, not sure. I think we pay 30%, and have withheld some $$ for political reasons (abortion & other far right/far left issues in Congress). Our 30% is by far the largest %. And remember, we have 5% of the world's population, but pay 30% of the cost of the UN...in addition to hosting all of it on our shores. (Except for the offices in Geneva & Vienna) | ||
| arthur chambers (Art355)
Intermediate Member Username: Art355 Post Number: 1509 Registered: 6-2001 |
Do we pay the majority of the UN's bills. I always thought it was 25%, and we've not paid our contribution on some of the areas where we disagree. Am I wrong? The UN may not be perfect, but there are instances where it has served a purpose: Korea, for starters, and in more than a few instances the UN has provided relief to areas where the US more than welcomed them. Let's not throw out the baby with the bath water, the UN does serve a purpose in a good many places, just because we have a disagreement or two. Art | ||
| Charles Barton (Airbarton)
Member Username: Airbarton Post Number: 483 Registered: 11-2002 |
We don't need a replacement for the UN, we just need the rest of the world to get a clue! | ||
| Charles Barton (Airbarton)
Member Username: Airbarton Post Number: 482 Registered: 11-2002 |
Thank you Marq! | ||
| MFZ (Kiyoharu)
Junior Member Username: Kiyoharu Post Number: 238 Registered: 2-2003 |
OK then, let's say that the UN (including all it's affiliated agencies and organisations such as WTO, IAEA, UNESCO etc) are indeed useless and should be disbanded. What would you suggest to replace the UN and it's agencies then? | ||
| MFZ (Kiyoharu)
Junior Member Username: Kiyoharu Post Number: 237 Registered: 2-2003 |
Believe what you want. We don't hate you, we just can't agree on certain things. Also, those aren't charities, Dave. | ||
| Marq J Ruben (Qferrari)
Member Username: Qferrari Post Number: 343 Registered: 2-2002 |
Charles said: "Why does everyone hate us so much? I think they just don't like the fact that we were the first to figure out how a country should be, and wish they had thought of it first! There is not a country on the planet better than ours, get over it! Why can't everyone be happy that someone finally figured out how to do it right!" Charles, I think you're dead on target!!!  | ||
| Dave (Maranelloman)
Intermediate Member Username: Maranelloman Post Number: 1410 Registered: 1-2002 |
MFZ, you are just plain WRONG. 100% wrong. And, just how much has Malaysia contributed to charities such as these? Thought not. Besides, with their HUGE overhead budgets, these charities are less than 1/3 as efficient as well-run private ones. But I guess that wouldn't give you the opportunity to bash the US, now would it, Fidel? | ||
| Charles Barton (Airbarton)
Member Username: Airbarton Post Number: 480 Registered: 11-2002 |
Why does everyone hate us so much? I think they just don't like the fact that we were the first to figured out how a country should be and wish they had thought of it first! There is not a country on the planet better than ours, get over it! why can't everyone be happy that someone finally figured out how to do it right! | ||
| Charles Barton (Airbarton)
Member Username: Airbarton Post Number: 479 Registered: 11-2002 |
What's the difference if the money is from the government or private interests, it's still from the US! | ||
| MFZ (Kiyoharu)
Junior Member Username: Kiyoharu Post Number: 229 Registered: 2-2003 |
Majority? You are seriously deluding yourself, my friend. US-based companies maybe, but not the US government itself. | ||
| Craig (Beachbum)
Junior Member Username: Beachbum Post Number: 122 Registered: 9-2002 |
MFZ, you mean all those organizations that the US pays the majority of the bills for | ||
| MFZ (Kiyoharu)
Junior Member Username: Kiyoharu Post Number: 227 Registered: 2-2003 |
Yeah, let's get rid of UNICEF, UNESCO, UNHCR, ILO and other UN-led or sponsored organisations as well. They aren't useful at all. | ||
| Ralph Koslin (Ralfabco)
Junior Member Username: Ralfabco Post Number: 113 Registered: 3-2002 |
UN is ANTI-USA What about all the parking tickets they do not pay in New York City ? UN is a forum for third-world loser nations. It is a terrible waste of our money. They are consistently Anti-American. They do nothing but get in the way. Millions were just killed in RWANDA. Where is the UN with N.Korean behavior? The UN does not care. But the UN cares when a hand-few of murdering criminals who lay booby traps in jenin are killed as combatants and leave AK-47's amongst the rubble. Iraqis gas Kurds Where is the UN? Syrians occupy Lebanon. Where is the UN? Syrians murder tens of thousands in Homs 1983. Where is the UN? But millions who are killed in RWANDA does not get the attention of the UN. We can go on and on about UN attrocities. We need to stop supporting the UN. Ralph | ||
| Dave (Maranelloman)
Intermediate Member Username: Maranelloman Post Number: 1403 Registered: 1-2002 |
These "diplomats" looted the place bare: http://www.time.com/time/world/article/0,8599,449436,00.html |