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  1. Houston348

    Houston348 Formula 3

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    ok, it looks like the part i need is all connected to the turn indicator and the wiper switch as well. can someone help me find the correct part on ricambi? i dont know what to search for
     
  2. TheOnlyest

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    Unless you can easily repair your switch by finding a clip or screw missing or something simple like that, all the stalk switches are
    one assembly... to replace one, you have to replace them all.

    Ricambi somehow has a very fair LOW price on these... ive had those greed mongering used part places quote me almost double (for a used one) what Ricambi charges for a new one!

    http://www.ricambiamerica.com/product_info.php?products_id=199529

    Item description is for a Mondial t, but its the same part for a 348.

    BTW, if you want to recoup some of your cost, I would be willing to give you a couple bucks for your broken one, I need just a couple springs etc. to fix my turn signal switch... not a big enough issue to be worth completely replacing mine.
     
  3. Miltonian

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    Looking at some pictures, I wouldn't be at all surprised to learn that the 348 turn signal/combination switch is identical to the one used in the Lancia Delta Integrale, maybe the Fiat Croma, maybe others. I'll see if I can post an example.
     
  4. Houston348

    Houston348 Formula 3

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    yeah, i saw that one on there but they said that it will work EXCEPT for the highbeams.. the 348 one is about $1,200!!!!!!!!

    if i do replace it.. what is your offer for my old one? :)
     
  5. Houston348

    Houston348 Formula 3

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    that would be awesome if those were interchangeable.. IF they are much cheaper! please let me know!
     
  6. PAP 348

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    I thought the combination switch was "all in one". :p:p

    Good luck with it mate. I will be watching this thread closely. ;);)
     
  7. Houston348

    Houston348 Formula 3

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    yep. it is. http://www.ricambiamerica.com/product_info.php?products_id=199529

    i think im going to go ahead and get this part. i just cant justify spending $700 for my highbeams to work when i have never used them haha

    once i get it i'll see how easy it is to install.. it couldnt be THAT hard could it??
     
  8. TheOnlyest

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    Who told you that? That doesnt make much sense of you think about it... how do the brights work in a Mondial then? and why would Ferrari engineer 2 identical but different parts... only to REMOVE one function?
    I got that link from an old thread where Daniel from Ricambi posted it as the replacement for the 348... I just looked again, no mention about the high-beam function... or lack thereof.

    Go to that link again and look at the 1st of the 3 pictures... the printing on the headlight stalk shows icons for low AND high beams... identical to the one in your 348.... hmmm. weird? maybe its just a simple wiring variation that could be easily changed, you'd have your original one to cheat from and find the difference. I would dig a bit deeper into this if I were you.

    Speaking for myself, even if that switch wouldnt work the brights... as rarely as I use them, it wouldnt be worth an extra $800 to me anyway... i'd get the HIR bulbs, and use the fog lights instead, and never give it a 2nd thought.

    As far as the value of your broken switch, I guess it would be up to you to determine that, then shoot me a PM.
     
  9. TheOnlyest

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    Piece of cake... but you do have to remove the steering column cover, and the steering wheel. You WILL need a puller to get the steering wheel off. You will also need to aquire or make the tool the remove the steering wheel nut... you can make one from a 15/16'' socket, if you have a steel cutting wheel and a bench grinder.

    2 pieces of advice, take out the fuse for the horn before applying the puller, and situate yourself off to the side of the wheel when you start to turn the puller screw. When the wheel breaks loose, it can become a projectile and can smash you in the chest or face with tremendous force!
     
  10. No Doubt

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    Here's a 1995 Lancia Delta Integrale (by the way, if anyone owns one of these cars in the U.S., please contact me about a sale):
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  11. Miltonian

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    Excellent pic, ND. Better than I could find. Now does that, or does that not, look exactly like a Ferrari 348 combo switch?

    Next question, what would the Lancia switch cost, and is it a direct replacement? Of course, they sold LOTS of these cars in England, and LOTS of them got driven into the ground, so there may be a source for "previously owned" parts. I have some information on parts suppliers in England, so I'll give it a try on Monday, unless someone has a better idea.

    I'm sure the combo switch isn't designed to be easily repairable, it probably was molded/cast in plastic around the various parts used to make it up, and if it breaks, you're just supposed to buy a new one.
     
  12. TheOnlyest

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    I wouldnt get your hopes up too high... that doesnt look exactly like the 348 switch to me! and keep in mind that both of these cars are european, its entirely possible that Lancia and Ferrari used the same electronics vendors (like Delco in the US). Just because they look similar, there are dozens of variables that will likely be very different between the two units... (column shaft diameter, mounting locations, wiring method, connector and pin locations, etc.).

    There are some aspects of the swich that are repairable. I did a whole rebuild on my turn signal switch, the nice thing about that was that I didnt have to actually remove the switch assembly from the column. It works fine now, but i'm not as happy with some bushings I made as I would like... which is why I would like to get ahold of someone's broken useless one.
     
  13. Houston348

    Houston348 Formula 3

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    that does pretty much look like a 348 switch.... depending on the price of it, if it was a LOT cheaper i would give it a try, but tracking one down and taking a stab at it might not good for my blood pressure if it didnt work, especially after knowing what i need to do do get in there and start taking the steering column apart..
    definitely curious tho!
     
  14. Houston348

    Houston348 Formula 3

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    i talked to Daniel (Jack Russell Racing) and he said that he replaced his with that exact same one and the highbeams were the only thing that didnt work. i bet a good electrician could wire it tho..

    and youre right about the extra $$ just to use the highbeams... i'll let you know when i replace mine and we can work out something for my old one, im a pretty generous guy lol
     
  15. Houston348

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    Much thanks to Daniel (Jack Russel Racing)... part is on its way!
     
  16. PAP 348

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    Sweet!! :):)
     
  17. albert328gts

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    I too have the same issue, but it is my turn signals, my part should be here Thursday, will let you guys know how I make out. Makes absolute sense that a Modial part fits a 348, just don’t understand WHY the high beams would not work but leave it to the Italians to make my life more interesting. Remember friends,

    Heaven is where,
    The Lovers are French,
    The Mechanics German,
    The Police English
    The Chefs are Italian and
    Its all organized by the Swiss...

    Hell is where,
    The Lovers are Swiss,
    The Mechanics French,
    The Police German,
    The Chefs, English and its
    All organized by the Italians...
     
  18. albert328gts

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    I finaly did receive my Turn Signal Stalk from Ricambi, using the Mondial one, took my time with it and messed around with the wiring following the path of the old one and making a few changes, and finaly got it to work! Headlights, high beam and turn signal all working perfectly. So yes it can be done!
     
  19. No Doubt

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    Nice job!


    So what had to be rewired for the high beams?
     
  20. 285ferrari

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    great news!!!!
     
  21. albert328gts

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    No Doubt, wish I would of taken pictures, as I just had arrived from a business trip and went quickly to work on it. It had been sitting apart for a month and desperately wanted to drive it! It was just a couple of wires that have different leads, quite simple, trust me especially if I could do it:) Followed the the wiring of the old one and made 2 changes to the new one and placed it in. Then the steering wheel, I did not use a steering wheel puller to remove it, and had to pull real hard to get it out, almost knocked out my 2 front teeth! But putting back the steering wheel was a snap! All is right with the world now!
     
  22. No Doubt

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  23. PAP 348

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    Cool!! Nice work mate. :):)
     
  24. TheOnlyest

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    LOL, I did use a puller, and STILL almost knocked all my teeth out when it broke loose!
     
  25. DocHoliday

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    Would love to know how you re-wired the Mondial light stalk to work with the 348. It seems there is one extra wire (blue+green) coming from the Mondial stalk that has no partner at the connector under the dash. The bottom of the Mondial stalk has the blue+green wire inserting next to a green (pigtailed from the green from the passing flasher connection), which is absent on the 348s. About to give up and live without the high beams. Any help would be great!
     

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