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Amazing recovery of wing failure

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  1. ylshih

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    Amazing!

    You'd only get one shot at this (assuming you had any control at all with cables ripped out), you couldn't practice for it, and you'd be incredibly lucky to just get down and not be dead.

    It absolutely has to be a fake.
     
  3. ylshih

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    There was an Israeli F15 that came in on one wing...

    http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=b5a79a516c
     
  4. 2NA

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    Very cool, but quite a different situation. More altitude, power, and a "wing like" fuselage.

    Imagine trying to land at twice normal speed.
     
  5. snj5

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    This was the most amazing display of flying I have ever seen. Ever
    No computers, just instincts and control cables...
     
  6. PittsS2APilot

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    We watched this thing at least 50 times at the FBO today. We started freeze framing some of the video to see if the pilot inputs to the controls were correct to what the airplane was doing? We were trying to determine if this is computer generated, radio control or actual real man flying machine? Most of what we could see was correct control surface inputs but it was very difficult to see? Don't be fooled by some of the "melting" of these 3 types of video into one to make one hell of a convincing video. We are still about 50/50. About half are saying it is fake and half are saying "give this guy an award"? IF IT IS REAL, the guy should have bailed out at altitude. I wear a chute required for aerobatics and if a wing is gone or fire is licking my rear, I'm getting out! lol Just my 2 cents.
     
  7. Jagbuff

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    A computer was involved, probably a Mac with After Effects... a couple of guys that work for me would laugh at the poor job that was done on the landing! April Fools
     
  8. Etcetera

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    Not only a fake, but a bad fake.
     
  9. jgcferrari

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    I also believe its a fake, the landing seems just to perfect and quick for a plane with almost no lift
     
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    Im in special effects and that is 100% a fake. Its a bad one too..I cant believe anyone would be fooled by it.
     
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    I was hoping for something a bit more "convincing."
     
  12. teak360

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    A FUGLY fake.
     
  13. future328driver

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    Fake. An overstressed wing that breaks at the wing root is not going to separate as cleanly as this one did. On the landing, he stopped much to quickly for the forward speed he was carrying and the video shows virtually no compression in the gear even though the airplane hits hard. My guess is purely a publicity stunt to drive traffic to his website.

    The reason the Isreali F15 was able to do this is because the main fuselage of the F15 actually acts as a lifting body. An Extra 300 fuselage is not a lifting body.
     
  14. snj5

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    #14 snj5, Oct 30, 2008
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    It seems real to me, actually, and is on a couple of sites; Putting the plane into knife edge which is what he did does not depend on the wings for lift, and is a common maneuver with how much power an Extra has. It looks like the wing separated (I'll ask an extra owner how it is attached) and he got it into a knife edge with the extras very powerful rudder and elevator.

    It might be a fake, though.
    I'm going to research it a bit more before I cry fake.
    Show me exactly how you determined it was a fake - I'd like to see.
     
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    Dude, it's a fake. And a bad fake at that. You try to put down a healthy plane in such a short distance. Then try to put down one without a wing. You can research it all you want and do physics calculations and physics models from some program you got from the web...all in between showing the moon landing was a hoax...the rest of us can see that it is a bad fake.

    :rolleyes:
     
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    If it was real, the interview should have been done standing by the broken wing root.

    It did look like an R/C plane when it landed.
     
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    I dont know anything about flying a plane so i cant comment on that.

    but I can tell you with 100% certainty that its CGI. It flat with poor lighting and simple texture maps. The motion blur is not realistic at all. The camera shake is also poorly done.

    Its the kind of thing a high school student can do these days.

    its amazing to me anyone can look at it and think its a real plane (as it lands). Its not even as good as most video games these days never mind movies.
     
  21. snj5

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    you need to come out to our airport one weekend and watch... it's amazing what you see. :)
     
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    OK Mr. Expert, I suppose you are going to tell us these crashes are fake too!!

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UveHYBSILYc
     
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    #23 KKSBA, Oct 30, 2008
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    Model Airplane:
    That's not fake. When you look at the short final, he has the plane crabbing at such an angle, that he gets lift from the main wing and the horizontal stabilizer acting as the missing wing.

    Don't try this with a passenger plane... The passengers won't like it.

    Real Airplane:
    I'm 50/50 on this one. Looks a little fishy...
     
  24. rob lay

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    Now if the plane landed on a treadmill? :D :D :D

    The plane and pilot are real and some of the footage is too, but give away for me is having flown R/C planes watching tricks they can do because the power to weight is so much higher than a real plane. Perfect slow speed knife edges along with being able to hover the plane like a helicopter going down to touch tail on ground and then back up again. A 1 wing knife edge/hover is actually easy with the right R/C. The other give away is the bounce. That bounce looks 100% familiar every time I land a R/C plane. :)
     
  25. snj5

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    Arrrgggghhh!
     

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