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  1. Jan Biekens

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    Yes I think so,

    BRDC International Trophy at Silverstone on May 12 1962, Ireland driving for UDT Laystall Racing team in a Ferrari 156 F1 chassis 0001, 4th place
     
  2. Bertocchi

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    How about John Surtees in 156/63 chassis #0003 at 1963 French GP at Reims?
     
  4. R33

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    hard to tell. I dont think Jan is too far off the mark,
     
  5. Bertocchi

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    I had never seen that style of air intake before! Thanks for your help!
     
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    I think that is the 1963 Ferrari F2 car....
     
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    Not sue about this one...the helmet looks too old for the car. I don't think it is Ireland driving...
     
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    STUNNING CAR, especially in dark green! Wrap it up and send it to me as a gift! :)

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  9. Bertocchi

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    #534 Bertocchi, Mar 7, 2006
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    330LMB at Bridgehampton in 1963. This car was actually a bronze color when new. I am fairly sure it was driven by Dan Gurney at one point.
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    Re car #16 in post 528

    Check the middle row of this webpage, far right photo of this same car competing at Silverstone 1963 carrying the number 10

    http://media.latphoto.co.uk/index.php?ctrl=search&ctrl2=images&ctrl3=&page=2&terms=%22ferrari+156%22&show=12

    and check the signage and buildings from this site (sorry I cannot link directly to the photo:

    http://www.sutton-images.com/
    click on search entire archive, enter "france and 1963" in search box, go to second page/first image of Jim Clark Lotus 25 in the same corner of Reims

    The 330LMB is chassis 4453SA, same car Gurney/Hall ran at LeMans. Gurney finished 3rd overall in #47 at Bridgehampton on 9/15/1963. The day before he scored Cobra's first ever World Championship of Makes win, the Bridgehampton 500.
     
  11. Jan Biekens

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    It's indeed a different helmet then on the picture in Alan Henry's book Ferrari The Grand Prix Cars page 155.
     
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    Ireland certainly drove this car and finished 4th - details as per Jan Biekens post - the 156 only appeared once in this guise. I'm not aware of another driver even trying the car.
    Ireland was quite widely regarded by Enzo F. According to Piloti che Gente "Ireland was a reckless genius...he surely could have gone much further had he wanted to."
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    Hi Paul,

    In the article Ireland writes: "Across its bow was a pale green stripe, a nice gesture by Ferrari. " So I still think it's the car only the helmet is different (number 9 looks more or less the same). He is also writing that he drove in the wet and in the rain. Could it be he changed helmets from pratice to the race ? Or did somebody else did a lap during practice ?
     
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    these were posted to alt.binaries.pictures.autos yesterday, without credits or copyright info. I´m only passing them on here.
    1) 1967 le mans 24hr - rico steinemann, dieter spoerry (ferrari 275gtb) 11th
    2) 1967 le mans 24hr - mike parkes, ludovico scarfiotti (ferrari 330p4) 2nd
    3) 1967 italian gp - chris amon (ferrari) 7th
    4) 1966 le mans 24hr - piers courage, roy pike (ferrari 275gtb) 8th 2
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    Paul I think it's Ireland if you compare the two pictures. What do you think ?
    If yes it means he changed his helmet.
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    Without doubt Jan, it is Innes.
    I have cropped and blurred your picture and pasted it next to mine. Not only is it Innes, but the helmet is exactly the same without doubt.
    Quite a unique photo then i think.
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    Nice photo David. Anymore good shots of #0794TR
     
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  25. dretceterini

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    Great car; great photo!

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