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Discussion in 'Vintage (thru 365 GTC4)' started by Bertocchi, Jan 14, 2006.

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  1. MJarrettR

    MJarrettR Formula 3

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    Indeed 4219GT at the 1963 12h Sebring, driven by Jo Bonnier/John Cannon

    -Jarrett
     
  2. MJarrettR

    MJarrettR Formula 3

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    Indeed 4219GT at the 1963 12h Sebring, driven by Jo Bonnier/John Cannon

    -Jarrett
     
  3. callaides

    callaides Formula Junior

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    Jarrett was the car red? Now it's either a dark dark blue or black...but in the photo I have it appears to be a lighter color?
     
  4. kare

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    Hathaway used same SWB with same plate and same racing number in VIR, Danville on 30/04/61, so yes, it is 1773GT.
     
  5. MJarrettR

    MJarrettR Formula 3

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    I believe it was red at this time, but I will try and confirm once I get home tonight and can look in some books.

    -Jarrett
     
  6. MJarrettR

    MJarrettR Formula 3

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    As Kare confirmed, and I have confirmation from others, that the Nassau SWB was indeed 1773GT. Car now has a rear fender vent though and no bumper. Painted yellow

    -Jarrett
     
  7. vroomgt

    vroomgt Formula 3

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  8. Bertocchi

    Bertocchi Formula 3
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    I believe that you have made a very good observation. I have always believed that Italian made coachwork, English made coachwork, and German made coachwork had their distinct style. For that reason I have always felt that certain handbuilt cars can loose some of their original character if they are repaired or rebodied in countries other then that which they were built.
    From the first time I saw an English wheel in operation I was amazed by its' results however I feel it gives Italian cars a different look. Likewise the Germans use a planishing hammer and it gives yet another look.
    We all know that old race cars have been repaired and rebodied many times and do loose some of their original character. I am deep into Masini's new book and love the photos of how it was done in Italy during the peak of custom coachbuilding. Fabulous reading and an important body of work.
    Being a "hands on" guy myself I always enjoy and appreciate understanding how different cultures and engineers tackle the same task. Thanks for your comments, David
     
  9. Bertocchi

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    #1259 Bertocchi, Aug 23, 2006
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  10. Hairy

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    #1260 Hairy, Aug 23, 2006
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  11. cuxa

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    Daytona s-n 16367
    Regards.
    Germain
     
  12. Bertocchi

    Bertocchi Formula 3
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    You win! Thanks Germain for the serial number, David
     
  13. southbay356

    southbay356 Rookie

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    Hi

    can you give the name of this book / publisher

    thanks
    Dave
     
  14. Bertocchi

    Bertocchi Formula 3
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    I purchased mine from The Ferrari Market Letter. The title is "Making a Difference" Le Edizione Dell'Opificio is the publisher. There is a thread regarding the book under the Collectibles section.
     
  15. Hubert1

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    #1265 Hubert1, Aug 24, 2006
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  16. cabarbe

    cabarbe Rookie

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    I bet it is an OSCA 750. I do not find my notes at this moment, but I think I could tell you which chassis number could be.
     
  17. Ed Niles

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    Re: "Livery", I think that's the same car. The first pic shows it at LM after it's clutch exploded (I was on the team). Owner Francisco Mir took delivery, as a new car from the factory, at LeMans. So, believe it or not, the first pic shows a factory paint job! Was later repainted to suit the sponsor Mr. Marty.
     
  18. Bertocchi

    Bertocchi Formula 3
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    The Daytona photo I posted was taken at Watkins Glen '71 or '72. The factory painted the car in that scheme? Which team were you with?
     
  19. Hairy

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    #1269 Hairy, Aug 24, 2006
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    David,

    Your picture was Watkins Glen 1973, the picture I posted was indeed the same car at Watkins Glen in 1974. Here's one of the front....
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  20. Ed Niles

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    Sorry, I didn't realize Frank's car raced after LM in it's original paint. I was at LM in 73 with Francisco Mir's team--Frank owned the world's smallest Ferrari dealership, Ferrari Diagnosis and Service, in Santa Monica, CA. Car was actually entered under NART, for political reasons.
     
  21. dretceterini

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    Absolutely an OSCA, but I think it is an 1100 or 1500.....
     
  22. El Wayne

    El Wayne F1 World Champ
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    1500. Chassis # is 1178. The date should be November 4, 1956.
     
  23. Birel

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    #1273 Birel, Aug 24, 2006
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    David Clarke's collection at the fledgling "Graypaul Motors" site in the English Midlands, late 1960's.

    Picture courtesy of Bob Houghton.
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  24. bobafett

    bobafett F1 Veteran

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    Holy dear god...

    --Dan
     
  25. Hubert1

    Hubert1 Karting

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    Cars look better than the building ...

    330P4 - 330P2 - 250TRi or 268SP (?) - 250GTO - 275GTB - 250GT Lusso - 410SA (?) ... and the last spyder ? (one of the Vignale's 212 or 225 ?)
     

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