Never Forget

God bless the families and friends of all the victims who sadly lost their lives on this day. Like Ed said....we will never forget

 

i just realized that I can see the WTC lights from my house (kinda tells you how zombie like I am when I get home). Very erie indeed. I think they should keep those lights up all the time. I dont think anyone will ever forget 9/11 nor should anyone ever forget it.

 

I think I can see my dad in the picture where everyone is walking across the bridge.

God Bless America.

 

Never forgive.

 

Certainly, never forget. But vengeance, while comforting, is not going to bring anyone back, nor will it change the circumstances that allowed the evil acts of 9/11 to occur. What we need is better understanding. The memory of those that tragically lost their lives on 9/11 is best served by making sure there is never any reason, excuse, chance or tolerance for the kind of evil displayed on that day. And that requires that we understand why it happened.... Five years later, we still have a "shoot first, ask questions later" attitude. That's just tragic.

God bless those who died, and those who are left behind to grieve them.

 

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Never Forget...

 

Not to start a flame war but your assumption is that the oponent is lucid, simply misunderstood, willing to hold an olive branch and that talking will solve any misalignments based on religion, political, economic, and moral dilemas. Sadly, I think you are too idealistic.

 

Not at all. I'm assuming only that the opponent is evil. The people we need to understand are the societies from which this evil arises. *They* cannot be painted with the same broad brush that we paint the actual perpetrators. What we need to achieve is a world in which the differences between our lives and theirs aren't so incredibly great as to spawn or tolerate those fringe few who would commit these acts. We are in the 21st century, yet still have rampant poverty, occupation, oppression and disposession in this world. This is what allow minorities in the affected populations to become so radicalized that they commit such atrocities. We can "hunt them down" or "smoke them out" or some such simplistic BS until the end of time, but we won't ever really change anything unless we focus on creating a world in which their own societies don't tolerate them. Bombing them into submission is never going to work for that, *because* these people (the minorities who commit these acts) aren't lucid or logical or whatever. SO, we need to change the very circumstances that allow them to exist.

As for flaming -- I consider you a friend, Clyde, and I don't take your comment as a flame. If others want to "flame", that's their choice. However, I think we should get back to the purpose of this thread, which was to remember the people that died on 9/11. I don't want this to turn into the politics and religion thread. So if any of you feel the need to flame me, do it there. I don't post there anymore, but feel free to create a new "why Jawad is wrong on this" thread there. Whatever.

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Im gonna flame you Jawad! .... Sorry its been a long day and its only 10 AM. But I did get a new blackberry!
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1) We should understand extremist the way we understand a virus. Just enough to destroy it.

2) On the other hand, I am all for foreign policies that intelligently approach groups with "public relations" (propaganda if you like) and good faith and fair dealing. If that doesn't work, see # 1

 

God bless.

 

Tom Friedman once said something to the effect that certain people will say "9/11 was awful, but...." afterwhich they insert something that equates to "we deserved it." There is no but, there is no justification, and there is certainly no excuse, period. Like many, I mark my life as pre and post September 11th, that day is as fresh in my mind as if it were yesterday.

As a New Yorker I really detest those web sites with flowery, syrupy prose with Enya playing in the background -- too me, those people just don't get it.

My ritual is that every 9/11 I glance at this: http://www.nytimes.com/pages/national/portraits/index.html.

I make no apologies for my views, as even 5 years later, I am still sad and mad as hell about this.

 

Same here

 

as a survivor of the 9/11 atrocity, Clyde, Nabbs and Sam are right...seeing what horror they gleefully did with pointy scissors, god help humanity if they get nukes.

 

Great post -- thanks for bringing it back. It's important that people watch this and never, ever forget about that day. It's all too easy to relegate it to history and politics and boil it down to a few pages in a textbook. For better or for worse, there were a lot of cameras on that day and it's important that we have a solid record of the scope and magnitude of what happened.

And as for the whole 'debate' on the source of the problem, here it is: We live in a tolerant society where people are free to follow Judaism, Christianity, Islam, Paganism, Satanism, Hedonism, or whatever the heck 'ism they want to follow. And some people in this world can't stand that. And until they can stand it or are physically beaten into standing it, they're going to envy us, hate us, and want to destroy us.

 

well said Noah.

 

Absolutely right.

I lost more than a few friends six years ago today. It's heartening to see the resolve of those who will not let it happen again as strong as it was then.

 

the day still brings tears to my eyes.
we will never forget.

 

This day brings back memories. I remember right where I was when I heard about it and who was around me, I don't think I'll ever forget. I was in school and found out before everyone else in my class because my parents had called the principal to tell me right away that my brother was okay, since he worked in there. He worked in the 2nd building that got hit and left right as the first building was hit just because he had that "feeling" that something didn't feel right (even though they were telling people in that building to stay put), and walked to the Credit Suisse building where his wife (at that time fiance) works. I feel I would be a very different person today if something would have happened to him. I am very blessed that I did not have a personal tragedy associated with 9/11 and my heart goes out to all the families that did, I know their lives will never be the same without their loved ones but hopefully they have made progress and lived their lives to the fullest for the past 6 years and for the rest of their lives.

 

yes...yes...very well Noah

 

I pay respect to all that died on 9/11 and those who laid their lives afterwards in Afghan and other places.


From my standpoint, when it happened I was a freshman in college, just 2 years in the US. I did not grasp the scope of the event until a few months later. It was very sad to see people's reactions to the tragic event, as I don't think anyone in this generation or even the previous one had witnessed an attack at their homeland. I was born in poland and lived there for 17 years. I am all too familiar with tales of war and what people go through when their homes are destroyed and families are broken up. History of Europe is a violent one. Here in the US, we are blessed to have lived in relative peace for a long time. Use the events of 9/11 to remind you of the value of peace. Never take any day for granted.

Please pay respect to all that died with a moment of silence in 17 minutes.

Edit: 9/11 now.