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Today I was given my sentence for 115 in a 55 on a suspended license

Discussion in 'Ferrari Discussion (not model specific)' started by Nick85, Sep 12, 2006.

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  1. BULL RUN

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    This is why the manufactures REALLY need to slow these cars down. You really don't need it because you can't use it, but we try, and the consequences are increasingly scary. Whenever a faster model is introduced, we just have to have it, and like fast food companies they hold some responsibility here for our safety.Thier longevity will depend on using a little common sense In the realization that people and the driving environment can't handel it.
     
  2. Artvonne

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    What? Are you freaking serious? You belong on Algorechat or something equally tree hugging left wing liberal. Cars have been mostly able to exceed any speed limit imposed since the biginning of time. It has always rested upon the driver to excersize control of the machine, and not the maker. But then I also feel that any old lady capable of commanding a car should be smart enough not to place hot coffee in her lap. But maybe im freaking stupid or something. People like you would probably ban Lamborghini Countachs from public roads.
     
  3. frefan

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    I only hope the gods are that mericful when my number's up
     
  4. ProRallyCodriver

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    Got a ticket recently by Fairfuxs County cops for my aftermarket exhaust system and the car is registered in MD. Haven't decided yet if I'm going to fight it or pay but dread having to go to the Fairfuxs County courthouse. States reap BIG$ in sales taxes for aftermarket parts sales but fine you if you install them.
     
  5. SrfCity

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    Yea, it's becoming increasingly "uncool" to speed in expensive cars. The risk of getting the book thrown at you is very great. Having said that it's important to be familiar with the route you're speeding on. Know where the cops are likely to be and just be very aware. These days someone is just as likely to call you in if they can to alert the cops. Of course there are States that are more prone to a little speed. VA isn't one of them. Keep an eye out ;)
     
  6. italiafan

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    Hellooooooo...McFly.......are you in there?
    Go Ralph Nader, Go Hillary!

    I'm stupified, stunned into momentary silence.
    This is what is wrong with America...this casting of blame. The companies have no responsibility for what an owner does with his/her car. They build a beautiful machine, and you of your own volition go and buy it. IF you then pull a bone-headed maneuver and someone gets hurt, you are culpable.....noone else.
    Furthermore, these cars have a gagillion more safety built right into them by their brilliant state-of-the-art design than some dimwitted giant SUV with a nimrod half paying attention while talking on the cell phone and watching tv on the indash tv screen!
    Speed in an F-car does not equal speed in the aforementioned SUV.

    Get a grip.
     
  7. J.P.Sarti

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    A few well publicized accidents with an aggressive speeder who takes out an innnocent family can have a huge ripple effect with new laws by do gooders to prevent this type of tragedy from ever happening again resulting in a loss of our freedoms, increased fines and wasted man hours by the Police who should be concentrating on serious crime instead of writing tickets and creating revenue.Granted Nick85 was speeding and got caught thats the way it goes but jail time is severe.


    About 6 years ago their used to be a book now out of print advertised in R&T and other car mags called the "Fast Drivers Handbook" though very un PC today it had tons of info conecerning the type of law enforcement vehicles each region used, how police set up speed traps and how to identify areas where they could be, also police frequencys for scanners and all kinds of other information not only useful to those that drive fast but anyone that could use the knowledge to prevent tickets in everyday driving.
     
  8. wetpet

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    wtf is wrong with this guy? go to the camry forum.
     
  9. frefan

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    LOL
     
  10. DeusGear

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    Yes, let the government and someone else decide what is right for me... <^>(^_^)> to you my friend.
     
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    I agree. It's a complete joke.

    Max 1 year for speeding? 1 year in jail is a life destroying event. For speeding!

    I feel sorry for the poor bastard who got 6 months before Nick went it...

    It's totally absurd. Most speed limits are mind-numbingly slow, and there is almost no chance of having an accident due to going 10 or 20km/h over the limit. It's even more painful if you have a fast car or have alot of racing experience.

    They think they have to cater the speed limits to the weakest link. The problem is, the retards who are such bad drivers are an accident waiting to happen anyway, regardless of the speed limit.
     
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    He is serving his time now, so I'll take a guess at this.

    I think he was facing that time because he was driving on a suspended license. I think that charge is a misdomeanor and you "could" face jail time. Though, I've never heard of anyone with a reasonable explaination serving any.

    Strange with all the talk regarding over crowded jails that they would put him in the system for 3 days.
     
  13. MamoVaka

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    I was driving down to Virginia in a Lotus Elise that I was trading in on a Viper RT/10 that I found..

    These roads are downright BEAUTIFUL to drive fast on, curvy.. amazing scenery and great quality asphalt..

    So I was doing from about 130-80 the entire way.. it was my last drive in the Elise which is an EXTREMELY fun car to drive and I was enjoying myself..

    In any case.. as I was driving about 90mph in a 75 zone.. the zone all of a sudden for about 1/10th of a miles dropped to 55.. BOOM cop got me right then.. over 25 mph over, considered reckless driving.. 400+plus ticket!

    I paid it and was told the judge COULD put me in prison for it, I honestly didn't believe that for a second.. but then looked into it and realized it was true..Also they said I NEEDED to show up in court or the punishment would be more harsh.. even though I was 500 miles from HOME!!

    Forget Virginia.. amazing ROADS to drive on but christ.. is it NOT worth it..


    This sate is absolutely horrible..
     
  14. MamoVaka

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    This is ABSOLUTELY true.. unskilled drivers are MORE dangerous than skilled drivers without question..

    I said they build an AUTOBAHN type highway in EVERY STATE, make you pay a tax to drive on it (100 bucks?) and let you just GO..

    God.. it kills me with these speed limits..
     
  15. DGS

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    Northern VA and southern VA are two different states. In the DC area (VA, MD, whatever), the press is so focused on the Federal zoo that the local governments can operate completely behind closed doors.

    I called FFX county to ask what the personal property taxes pay for. What does the public get for their money? They transferred me three or four times and then to a dead connection. (E.g. they hung up on me.)

    Transient population. Low voter turnout. No public oversight. What do you expect?

    In the words of one of the Pilgrims: "Speak for yourself, John." ;)

    That's exactly the "Big Brother" attitude that is running amok in DC land: People all certain that everyone else is even lamer than they are.

    You can see it in DC metro traffic: people who can't find the lines on the road who are still certain that everyone else drives even worse.

    You can drink coffee and gab on the cell phone as long as you can point to Teddy Kennedy's driving record, right?

    Society chasing a decling standard downward.

    But the other side of the coin is having to accept responsibility for judging what you can handle. And taking the responsibility when you cross that line. If you hit a pedestrian while gabbing on the cell phone, is that Verizon's fault? Henry Ford's?

    When people won't accept responsibility, they lose authority.

    The function of government is to promise to take away responsibility -- and instead take authority and hide it behind layers of obfuscation. And to take tax money.

    The bureaucracy can spend your money better than you can, right? The people "can't handel it."


    To be completely fair, though, the authority/responsibility schism isn't only between government and wee the people. It's also between government levels.

    When DC lets a diplomat trade a goatherd's license for a permit to pilot a three ton SUV and the Commonwealth lets a PFC with an Iowa tractor licence operate a 300 BHP 4-by-4 on public roads, the local counties are down to trying to slow traffic to a stop to reduce injuries when the cars collide. (Because holding those people responsible for exceeding their limits isn't an option anyone would consider.)

    Alas, immobilizing traffic has become an end onto itself: there are more blind merges in DC metro than I've seen in the rest of the world combined. In one case, they actually built a hill to keep merging traffic from seeing each other. That's just nuts. And keeping traffic idling at these congestion-collecting traffic lights for long periods isn't exactly in keeping with a "green" reputation.
     
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    Nick I really admire your attitude to this, you were aware of what you were doing and are taking the consequences like a Man rather than a whiney child, if only there were more people with your attitude

    Hope you don't have too bad a time for the 3 days your in :)
     
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    Can't agree more: Nick is taking responsibility for committing a crime and taking his punishment like a man. A crime is a crime, Nick knows that the laws for traffic offenses are tough where he lives and chooses to break them anyway &#8211; and on a suspended license at that!! Understand that I am not passing judgement on him &#8211; I break traffic laws probably EVERY time I am behind the wheel, in one way or the other, and as a performance car & motorcycle enthhusiast, I have indeed gone WAY beyond the speed limit. Other people's safety is something I have always considered, but still...

    What I am saying, essentially is that, don't do the crime if you can't do the time. Period. Even when I don't agree with them, I do have a fundamental respect for the law, even though I break them!!

    The only consolation for me is that if (when?) I get a 3-day sentence in L.A. County, I'd be processed out within a few hours because of the overcrowding!! (Seriously - some actress literally did a couple hours on a 30-day DUI sentence, totally SOP here.)

    Good on you Nick.
     
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    Hope that motto isn't emblazoned on inmate jumpsuits.

    Used to live in No. VA - glad I don't anymore. Pigs.
     
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    I can't imagine 300 km/hr on Egyptian roads! I am Egyptian, although I no longer live in Egypt. There are absolutely no roads in Egypt where a high performance car can be enjoyed.

    Highways have people driving in the wrong direction against on-coming traffic just so they don't have to drive in the right direction to the nearest U-turn! People routinely drive at night with no lights on whatsoever. Some truck drivers even decorate their front headlights with red stickers and drive down the highway in the wrong direction at night with their lights on. The result of course is that anyone seeing them from a distance thinks they're seeing the tail end of a vehicle. You then have a second or 2 to avert a head-on collision!

    My wife and I always used to fly to any destination inside Egypt just to avoid driving. I lost 2 close friends of mine to horrific accidents on Egyptian roads in the last 10 years.
     
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    why do people drive with their lights off?
     
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    How is it people drive on suspended licenses and don't know? Well, in IL it's easy. I failed emissions on my Lotus and realized I'd save a bundle and avoid it completley by getting antique plates. On the paperwork you put your old plate # and they give you a new one (I ordered a vanity plate but of course that takes time). So my car is now exempt, and I stopped getting the warnings to get my car tested.

    Well, a few months later I switch insurance companies and they say my license was going to be suspended in a week for non compliance with emissions testing! It seems the State Of IL doesn't tell the emissions people when a car is exempted. And there was no form to fill out to tell them my car was now exempt; I wrongly assumed since IL GAVE me the antique plate, they'd also know I HAD an antique plate! So I lucked out, although I had to jump through hoops to fix the problem with both IL and Farmers.

    Ken
     
  22. BULL RUN

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    LOL to you if you don't think the government already decides what's good for you.
    I beleive this conversation started with jail time for speeding?

    I think they even regulate the speed of race cars for safety don't they? But everybody's accomplished, and a stud on the street so there's no limits?

    And I think my comment deserves provocative responses, not insults.
     
  23. Tarek K.

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    Well, I do enjoy my high performance cars in Egypt on Egyptian highways, that is why I buy them. Some people might think I am crazy, but if you just don't have the guts to drive on our roads, simply don't, like you said, you would better fly.
    I haven't travelled with my F430 yet, but I am planning to drive it to Hurghada next Saturday which is a resort on the Red Sea in the south of Egypt 460km away from Cairo. My other performance car is a 2006 SL55 AMG with the Vmax option (unlimited top speed) and I have taken it many times to Hurghada and I have driven that stretch (460km) in under 2hrs15min with top speeds of 300km/hr and I do enjoy it tremendously.
     
  24. Tarek K.

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    Yes, this rock piling issue was a large problem until a couple of years back, especially with broken down trucks. Now traffic police have the problem more or less under control with more patrols on the main highways to eliminate this problem.
    Also, since last year on major highways which are also used for the transportation of tourists in buses, they have banned the driving of any trucks after sunset which were the cause of nearly all highway accidents. This has reflected very positively on the accident rates. The two main highways which are under very tight control are the one leading to Hurghada in the South of Egypt on the Red Sea, a very large resort city and the one leading to Sharm El Sheikh, a another sea resort on the Red Sea in Sinai.
    Driving by night now has become more comfortable than driving by day, much less traffic and with a good set of Xenon headlamps, you are well setup.
     
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    Personally never liked the state of virginia. I drive to FL a few times a year and as soon as i hit the state i take the radar detector down and drive at most 5 over the limit (on I 95). I even plan my fuel so i don't have to stop and gas up there. On one trip i counted as many as 22 highway patrol cars just waiting to pull people over. It must have been fund raising day cause they were in groups of at least 2. I was heading south and a few miles before leaving the dreaded state there was a group of about 5 cars monitoring traffic in both directions. So they got you when you came in and got you as you were going out.

    At one point many years ago the state wanted to make CB's illegal.

    Virginia maybe 'for lovers' but i'll do my loving somewhere else.
     

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