C6 Z06 beats F430 while being in the wrong gear!!!..*Video*

As a certified car nut I love the smell of competition. It's good to have marques competing. And each board has guys like me who have owned or presently own several and are not afriad to say what car is better in what ways. 430s are works of art. The 430 is better than the Z06 in many ways but performace just isn't one of them. Vive la difference.

 

Playing Devil's advocate here, but only R&T has gotten better times from a 430 than the rest of the Magazines. In the same monthly edition, C&D got faster times with the Z06 but still placed the 430 Numero Uno for everything else it has going.

 

Really? I know earlier this year in an issue of C/D (I don't remeber which issue) they recorded better 0-60 and 1/4 times, a 3.5 to 60 and a 11.8 in the quarter. Then again some cars are just faster then others and conditions may have been different.

 

Michael that was a Preproduction car tested at the Ferrari Test Track (Fiorano). Since than C&D has not been able to duplicate those numbers. One reason also the R&T car was so fast is because it was a European Model tested with L/C. Ferrari also is notoriously optimistic with there weight figures. Don't get me wrong, I personally would rather have one 430 over 3 Z06's. But lets give the Z06 its due in relation to speed.

 

Performance aside, the name Ferrari carries a certain mystiqe. To beat a Ferrari(no matter what the conditions)is the "dream" of many.(Fast and Furious anyone? or any other million net videos titled ferrari vs. whatever.) So enjoy the fact that as an owner, you are the top dog that everyone wants to knock off, not the one chasing the glory.

 

As I posted earlier I own a Z-06 and Ferrari (also a a Porsche Turbo, SL 55, etc.). Love all in there own way, just like so many women. There is no question that the Z-06 is faster, clearly from a rolling start. No matter how many articles are quoted or loud the screams, one drive of both will convince any fair minded human being.

However, a true horse race (including the prancing horse) is made up of many things, including ambience, style, class, detail, feel, symbolism, pride, etc. etc. I, for one, would miss opening my garage door and seeing my Ferrari waiting for me. Immature, maybe, but true. I would also miss the "feel" of my Z-06 "hot rod" when I slide it around a corner or punch it. I worry a little less about it being scratched when parking and love the maintenance cost.
But thats just me.

 

Dude who care's what the magazines say?. I don't believe a lick of what they put in there because the bottom line is not everybody who owns a Z06 or 430 will get the exact numbers, Hey maybe some might get better numbers while others wont.

Another thing is the Z06 is by god a faster car, I have seen it beat a Gallardo and a Viper and both had aftermarket exhaust, don't believe me the videos are over on streetfire.com. So it doesn't suprize me to see GM's fastest car beat Ferrari's second fastest car. Personally id love to see a Z06 line it up with an Enzo or Murcielago and see who wins then.

The Gallardo and F-430 should be competting against the regualer model C6 and not the Z06. My opinion the Z06 was designed to take on the flagship models and not there cheaper counterparts.

 

how many people here care about the many sensations other than speed, when you're driving a car? doesn't matter if you're going 20 mph, or 120. how does the steering feel? ride quality? how bout the sound? or even the smell of the leather? the seat of the pants feel (not just the shove in the back), and through the palms and fingers? these aren't rhetorical questions, but honest ones...just curious what others 'register' when they're out driving their pride and joys. me personally, i notice the "little" things. also, this thread is starting to turn into another one of those "on paper" spec wars. does Ferrari ever mandate that each new car they build always be the fastest(accel/top end) in their segments? is that top priority? why is it that accel/top speed are the first things that everyone points out when they're ranting?


still dreaming of owning something like an F430...someday, someday (sigh)

 

Well and thats the thing about it, the Z06 is all business it has nothing to offer besides performance. The Ferrari on the other hand offers performance but with world class qualitly, you won't find that in a Z06. The Z06 regardless if its faster and in this rare case looks better but its a car that has Wallmart qualitly.

People think they are getting a great deal with a vette but I can buy an Ultima GTR for about 56k and run curcles around a Z06 not to mention look better and have better quality. Sure thats just a kitcar well I can buy a Kawasakai ZX-14 and beat the crap out of a Z06 bone stock right of the factory and not to mention better qualitly and looks.

Also im gonna tell you straight up now that im not into the F-430 but If I was in the Dallas area id be up for the wager, and id also rent a ZX-14 for the day and lets see who has the better bang for the buck. Remember there's always someone faster and in somecases cheaper.

 

Then whats the point of it being fast?

 

we don't really care that the z06 is faster. If we wanted a poor man's super car we could sell our f430s and buy 3 z06s. and personally I would never race/track my f430 at those speeds anyhow.

I just recently bought my f430 and it's coming in about 7 days. This video in no way makes me regret my decision. AND YES I'VE OWNED A NEW Z06 for about 4 months. NO COMPARISON. At the end of the day, the ferrari wins no matter how fast the corvette is.

Don't get me wrong the z06 is great but it does not have the complete package as the f430. Even the yellow z06 owner himself said, they would rather have a f430. That saids it all!

 

I can accept that in a proper test a ZO6 can be faster than a 430.

But for you to say a Z06 with a handicap can walk away from a 430 is just plain moronic.

If it makes you feel better so be it.....

 

First Murci and Enzo compared to Z06, please wake up and smell the coffee...

2nd it was maybe designed to take on the flagship models. It is as fast or a little faster then Ferraris entry model so it must have failed misarable in that case.

It´s more relevant to test a Toyota supra vs the Z06 then the Z06 vs enzo or murc.

 

Amen to that!

 

I think comparing it to an Enzo goes without saying. Enzos kill just about everything. As for a Murci, they don't stand a chance either. I've already raced one one from many speeds. The result was the same every time. I walked away from the Murci fairly easily. They run almost dead even with my buddies GT2. From about 50-150 I was 4 car lengths ahead of a Murci. I raced a Ford GT the same night and he won twice and I won twice just for comparisons sake. I've also raced 5 or 6 600cc motorcycles and beat them as well. 750s are even to a little faster and 1000s and up walk away pretty easily.
I love Ferraris though. They've been my favorite car since a child. I've been able to tell you the hp and engine size of every Ferrari in production since I was 10 unlike some of you guys who wouldn't know how the specs of your own car if you had to. It's sadly just a mantle piece to most owners. I don't see how the typical owner can put just 1K miles/yr on theirs. I put 6500 on my last one in a yr. And this is why I love to comare and contrast them, because I actually drive them when I own them. Most Vette owners know the beauty and grace of the Ferrari. No one denies how great they look and sound. And the feel of driving one is nearly undescribable. But the Z06 is a better performance car plain and simple. It's faster and better in every performance aspect which in the end is what sports cars are about. When you can't admit what is plainly obvious, it's just petty, ugly and pathetic. As one of the loyal Tifosi I should think Ferrari owners should be as graceful as the cars.

 

I agree - time and place permitting, but this is a bit like a vegetarian walking into a butchers shop and complaining there is nothing to eat.

I know its not a 430 or a 360 but I too do 4k plus in my car, although I have never tracked it, I do however do all the servicing, and as a qualified mechanic (albeit X) do know one end of most cars to the other. This all strikes me as a bit playgroundish, “my Dads bigger than your Dad” type stuff.

 

Really? I would hope you have done some things that are smarter. Nobody thinks the vette is slow. And nobody would think the 430 is slow either. If you think so, you are in the great minority. A Daihatsu is slow, a 430 is not. Seems pretty basic, a smart guy like you should be able to understand it.
BT

 

It´s slitghtly faster then the F430, I doubt overall driving experience is even at 50 % of an F430 though. Z06 is way slower and worse in every aspect of handling then the 599, Enzo, and F430 challange.

And you cant compare a massprodution easy obtainable car in any aspect more then track times or acceleration to an exotic imo. Different universes. Like Certina and Rolex, both show time more or less accurate...

And if I wanted a "what sports car is about" I would consider a real sports car, like Ariel Atom that costs half of the vette and drives in circles around it.

i dont think that the vette is a bad car, I´ve seen the track times, faster then a 360 CS for ex, but I think that 5 % of the Ferrari owners dream about a Z06 and 95 % of the Z06 owners dream about a Ferrari.

 

Bill, excuse me, but why do you have to bash on Daihatsus? I know one (http://www.dragtimes.com/Daihatsu-Charade-Timeslip-5687.html) that will beat an F430!

 

Ferraris are not good at drag racing, plain and simple. The american cars will probably beat most cars in that game. Fcars are better road cars IMO (and I'm not talking about a track -- I'm talking about a public road, with uneven surfaces and imperfect turns). I've ran with several z06's here in the Nevada mountain passes and nobody has walked away from my strad. On the contrary, I've had numerous compliments from vette owners that say the car is very fast. But its not really 'fast', it just outhandles most any american car. I know if there is a very long straight I'll get passed, but on these mountain roads there aren't many long straights. And even then, I am usually able to always keep a turn or two ahead, so when a straight does come up I'm already halfway down it when the vette/viper/whatever comes around the corner.

In a drag race I would lose, no question, so I don't even bother. I hate drag racing anyway.

Ironically, the cars that have no trouble keeping up in a road race is a lotus exige - a 4 cyl toyota.

 

And more irony my GT4 kept up with a posse of Caterham 7s on Saturday round some very bendy roads; what a blast that was, I’m not a great driver but my car was awesome and seemed to drive itself. Behind us was a Transam (dressed as Knight Rider) left him for dust..

 

You know that a LP640 is ALOT faster then a Z06, different worlds.

 

Frankly I don't care too much about the drag race results, but I weighed my car when it was lowered and aligned, and the weight was right about what the factory says, maybe 40lbs heavy. Can't complain about that. The HP figures seem to be accurate this time also.

Gary

 

Surely that is not all there is to a sports car. If it were life would be much simpler and we'd all drive the same car. Performance is very important but it's only one component of the total package that includes looks, build quality, racing heritage, "gotta have it" factor, resale strength, etc, etc.

Gary