Nah! That is wasting your life. I just went walking around yesterday and it seemed to be my lucky day to spot exotics! About the F60, that is what I heard from some website which spies on car companies to get info and pics of new cars.
OK.OK. Let's talk about exotics. Well, Pininfarina has built a special Enzo.It is called the Ferrari P4/5.Its going to cost $6m. This exotic car made its debut at the prestigious Pebble Beach Concours in California and will also appear at this month's Paris Motorshow.
Van can carry more and lorry can carry most golf sets. Actually SUV storage is quite bad - so are you putting it on the passenger seats / fold own some seat rows to accomodate bags ? You can also put some bags on passenger seat of 7 series. How many sets do you need to play anyway ? Are you the team driver (pick everyone up and drop them off ?) if team driver, consider Mercedes Vito or other MPV - space is better - can seat more people (10 max) and take more luggage (but will seat less than 10 people) or do you carry all the golf bags in one SUV and others take a taxi or drive their own cars ? In case you still can't tell by now, my point is that its pretty lame to say you buy a SUV to carry more golf bags. Your reasoning aptly demonstrates what most people who buy a SUV use as reasons to buy such a vehicle - ie illogical ones. 1. SUV owners say they buy because they say its safer when its less safe than a normal car 2. SUV owners also say they buy because its a load lugger when its actually not very spacious and cannot to take much (unless you fold down some seats) - but if you fold down the seats, then you can't use the 3 rows of seats to the fullest 3.The SUV cost more for off roading - but they don't use it for that purpose - summerhill is not really a hill 4. SUV owners pay for more fuel for NOTHING - its because the cars are heavier and the 4wd consumes more fuel but if your not off roading then what's the point ? Actually, I can accept it if SUV owners are honest enough to say "I bought it for no reason other than it looks good to me although its completely not practical" but if SUV owners say that its to carry more golf bags or that its safer, then I can't agree. If you really need a load lugger, buy kdk's car, a kangoo or caddy and if you really need a family mover, buy a MPV. Ferrari owners (unlike SUV owners) could care less if their cars were not practical. Ferrari owners have never found the need for a reason to buy one. They buy it because they like it. I get people saying "your car can drive where uh ? singapore so small where to speed ?". So I suppose the US Ferrari owner drives from LA to New York everyday since his got a big country to do it in ? I think once you ask what's the point in buying a Ferrari, you have already missed the point.
How do you send photos from my camera and can you send pictures from other websites? Will the other sites fine you?
your testing me is it ? there is no such thing as a special enzo surely you know this car is a one off and is not for sale ? - why so much wrong info ?
You don't believe me? Go and read Sept 06 issue of Wheels Asia or go Google and type in "Ferrari P4/5". This time, it is for real!
Well the owner had his orignal enzo re-built by Pinnafarina into the P4/5, so technically they werent making a new car. And btw, the owner of the car is a regular poster in these Forums
Hello again, this is old news. The owner of this P4/5 is a regular in this chat name is "Napolis" or Jim for short & I've "spoken" to him before, the entire project from beginning to now travelling the world is also all over this chat with pictures. It is essentially a customed car based on a brand new Enzo & the owner has the original P4/5 as well. If you are free there's hundred+ pages to read & a few other threads dedicated to his car. We get first hand information before magazines! http://ferrarichat.com/forum/showthread.php?t=92754 You guys should get the Oct UK edition Evo. Has a super shootout featuring Veyron, Enzo & two other supercars.
of course the car exist - the owner is on this chat - its just that its not for sale as its a one off specially ordered by a very rich customer and its not a production car.
so aren't you going to post some photos asap ? your the exotic spotter after all ... would be nice if you posed in the photos to prove its your uncle's car..
Hmmmm, black Tie! less then a week to the dinner, havent received invitation, dun think have time to sort out the tux bro...
How do you know that it is me and "Exotic Spotter" is just a Nickname.First, how do you post photos on the web? Besides, I have not seen his XK8. He just informed me that he had collected his silver XK8 today.He owned a 2001 SL350 before this.His wife drives an X-type 2.0.
shouldn't be - are you an owner ? Its been discussed for months - even if you don't attend owners meetings its all over the meeting minutes that every owner receives ...
Wow! So convenient that your walk conveniently brought all the exotics together.... About the F60, since no one has bothered to reply, it was the code name for the Enzo. The car, not the person. In case you got the wrong info. Did you happen to check on the date of the info/pics of the website? If it is current dated, think you should go look for a more up-to-date site.... Please let us know. It's a question that I believe many of us are curious about too.... Oh, so the truth is out...all your previous posts were fakes!! As we surmised... It must have been easy spotting that exotic....your uncle lives near all the 'other exotics' that you came across yesterday? And if you want a Pininfarina-designed car, try the Matrix......
Hey CT, I haven't got the invitation too. Luckily our friend is in the committee & I did pay my membership but do they send minutes? Anyway, wouldn't have the time to read. BTW, leealfred owns at least two Fcars.
Ok enough bickering. Let's talk cars. Positive camber means the bottom of the wheels point inwards, towards the centre of car right? While negative (which most owners do) sets the wheels a little out to get better handling. Now, I've heard some guys do a little positive for the front to assist better turn-in rate? Is it true & what effects on mid/front/rear engine cars then. Anyway, too much of either gets uneven tyre wear right? What happens when it's a FWD, RWD or 4WD? How do those guys set the camber for 4WDs such as WRX/Evo/Gallardo or just standard factory specs. 911 seems to get most experiments in this field due to the odd placement. Those strutbars, I was told you shouldn't happily fit one in as it may cause more harm than good on stock suspension unless it's modded. Anti-Roll bars, is thicker the better? I was reading an earlier EVO & there was an Aston V8 vs 997. A tyre change made the Aston faster round the "Ring" by 2mins & won the 997 by I think 2secs. What happened was that the 997C2S? was on CCB while the Aston was stock with Bridgestone & it was slower then they shod it with Perilli Rosso Corsa which made a dramatic difference.
yes they send minutes - its curious if your all owners then you should have the invites and minutes - I received yet another reminder to attend just days before - you can see why I am suprised with leealfred's message - are these old Fcars ? does he still own them ? Those are the only explanations I can think of (at the moment) as the messages state that only current owners and members of Ferrari and Maserati Club are allowed to buy tables.
looking directly at the car from the front - /--\ ............. is negative camber and \--/ ............. is positive camber all cars have a certain amount of neg.camber to ensure the best contact patch available to the most loaded tyre (the one outside) as the car leans into a bend. The more sporting the car , invariably the more neg.camber it'll run. Some touring cars run 5 degrees , road cars about 1 deg. .. to aid 'turn-in' (ie , the ability of the front to dive into a bend and bite) , the theory is to dail in toe-out for the front wheels. looking from the top of the car's front axle - ^^ \--/ ............ toe out and ^^ /--\ .............. toe in but for road cars , toe-out will result in instability at high speeds and the tendency to 'wander' (ie , inability to track straight). So the toe-out thing is mainly for track. .. both camber and toe (if excessive or plain wrong) will result in 'strange' tyre wear. ..
You mean open it wider up front? \--/ ............ toe out Do you guys experiment it @ PG on trackdays? Is there facility there? Hoist/jacks?
