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  1. jknight

    jknight F1 Veteran

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    #1 jknight, Oct 12, 2006
    Engine failure = failure in upper part of a valve . . . .

    Ferrari remain baffled about why Michael Schumacher's engine blew up in the Japanese Grand Prix after discovering the cause was a valve failure not experienced before.

    Although there had been suggestions that Schumacher's retirement could have been related to the problem Felipe Massa suffered at the Chinese Grand Prix, a full analysis of the engine at Maranello on Wednesday has now ruled that out.

    Ferrari have discovered that Schumacher's blow-up was caused by a failure in the upper part of a valve - and is the first time this season that it has occurred. To add to the team's frustrations, the part has been used for several races already.

    Ferrari spokesman Luca Colajanni told autosport.com that the Italian outfit were now launching further investigations to try and work out exactly why the problem occurred.

    "It's the first time we had it, and it's nothing to do with what happened to Felipe's engine," he said. "We're still doing more analysis to understand why there was this failure, but it was nothing to do with the other one. That was in the same area, but it was a completely different thing.

    "It was not a part that had been recently introduced, so this is why it's strange. It happened in Suzuka, but it could have happened in Hockenheim. It's the kind of thing that can always happen. It's just a shame that it happened when it did."

    Schumacher's engine failure has all but killed off his bid to secure an eighth world championship this year. He needs to win the Brazilian Grand Prix, with Alonso out of the points, to clinch the crown.

    Ferrari still have an outside chance of the constructors' championship though.
     
  2. TheBigEasy

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  3. sindo308qv

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    #3 sindo308qv, Oct 12, 2006
    Just read Schumacher will be using a " super engine" with 20 more hp.
     
  4. Remy Zero

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    #4 Remy Zero, Oct 12, 2006
    u sure about this?
     
  5. jk0001

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    #5 jk0001, Oct 12, 2006
    MS will drive the race of his life in Brazil just to go out on a High Note!
     
  6. BMW.SauberF1Team

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    #6 BMW.SauberF1Team, Oct 12, 2006
    I knew they were using a V8, but didn't think it was the F355's engine. Damn valve guides!
     
  7. tuttebenne

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    #7 tuttebenne, Oct 12, 2006
    LOL
     
  8. mdaj

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    #8 mdaj, Oct 12, 2006
    Alonso put sugar in Schumachers fuel.
     
  9. Senna1994

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    #9 Senna1994, Oct 12, 2006
    F-1 Live just reported the samething. It is a remapped V8 mean't to last only one race. They also reported an intake valve failure at Japan due to the Raw Material.
     
  10. DGS

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    #10 DGS, Oct 12, 2006
    Raw material: Engineer speak for "dam fino". :D

    Although it's an odd coincidence that it happened just right after he was idling in the pits for a few seconds.

    Think maybe it was that "Magic Octane Booster" the crew got off the Internet? ;)
     
  11. 1_can_dream

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    #11 1_can_dream, Oct 12, 2006
    Fortunately they finally found out what happened, they needed 35 more hp in the car so they went with one of these.

    http://www.turbonator.com/

    Too bad it turned out for the worst.
     
  12. djui5

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    #12 djui5, Oct 12, 2006
    Wonder who's gonna be the one to run Alonso into a wall?

    :)




    kidding! Don't get your panties all in a bunch..
     
  13. Whisky

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    #13 Whisky, Oct 12, 2006
    Just like I said...

    I saw the small puff when he was entering the corner, and I said 'It's over as soon as he gets back on the accelerator......'
     
  14. Remy Zero

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    #14 Remy Zero, Oct 13, 2006
    bad bad memories :(
     
  15. ernie

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    #15 ernie, Oct 13, 2006
    No, no, no, that's not it. They listend to Gary and put some acetone in the tank. LOL!
     
  16. Whisky

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    #16 Whisky, Oct 13, 2006

    Happened to a friend of mine in a local event, the thing is, in a small-block V8, you don't even feel it coming, if my friend did, he would not have got back on it entering the corner and probably would have saved most of the engine except for the valve, spring, retainer that initially broke.
    Myself and his crew were watching, we all saw it puff, and we all said in almost-unison; 'DON'T get back on it, Jay', but he did.
    Big Boom instead of little boom.

    There is nothing MS could have done to save it. Especially at those RPM's.
     
  17. Remy Zero

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    #17 Remy Zero, Oct 13, 2006
    very true. interesting to note that MS said there was no particular sign that was saying that the engine was about to blow.

    but then again, on the lighter side, MS never had an engine failure in 6 years. he might have forgotten how it ' feels ' before an engine gives way. i bet Kimi knows this pretty well :D
     
  18. Scuderia980

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    #18 Scuderia980, Oct 13, 2006
    LOL
     
  19. Ferrari_lvr

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    #19 Ferrari_lvr, Oct 14, 2006
    That really sucks. I damn near cried when it blew, I was just so shocked. France 2000...I didn't even know F1 exhisted in 2000. Oh well.
    I wonder if someone in the field will purposely run FA into a wall, or do something on purpose to screw him up and take him out of the points. That would be so amazing. Then he takes the 8th WDC. I would love to hear what Alonso has to say about that...the ***.
     

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