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  1. Simon^2

    Simon^2 F1 World Champ

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    I heard mike tyson use that word once...
     
  2. jk0001

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    Alonso is going to be a miserable man next year when Kimi drives him into the ground. Ole Alonso will gain weight , drink alot , get grey and end up talking to him self, and crying into his beer with Jackie Stewart at some pub.
     
  3. parkerfe

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    How short is your memory? How about Alonso's passing and holding off MS in 2005 at the IGP?...And, don't forget Alonso also had an engine failure DNF as well as two very questionable, i.e., pro-Ferrari FIA penalities, that put him back in the starting grid this year. Alonso only has to finish 8th to guarantee his 2006 WC even if MS wins the race...so who is likely to spank whom? GO ALONSO...
     
  4. BMW.SauberF1Team

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    Okay, I have to disagree here. The Mercedes engine was very powerful because they built them for short lives! That's why they never lasted 2 races. They'd have Kimi set pole, change engine, 10 spot penalty, and he'll fly back up to P1. This year they're not as good. How was it tainted by Kimi and the McMerc? It's just the way McLaren went about winning races.
     
  5. icky

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    Alonso is a good driver, in a good car. If he wins the championship then he deserves it. No one should be remembering his WDC as "only because schumacher retired" The same could be said if Schumacher won the WDC. Only because Alonso retired at Monza perhaps?

    I think he believes he is being heavily overshadowed by MS and feels the need to constantly defend himself. Hopefully he'll learn in time that he doesn't need to talk badly about those around him to try and make himself look better. As another said, his actions speak louder than his words...
     
  6. classic308

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    Counselor-Perhaps you should do some fact gathering before making statements.

    MS never won the WDC by "taking out" Villeneuve; Villenueve won. (1997)

    After that year Villeneuve became an "also ran"-I suspect that same fate will await FA-unless McLaren can provide him with the best car on the grid. Let's see if FA can turn a team around the way MS did when he first came to Ferrari....

    As for my assertion that FA is lucky that is my opinion.
     
  7. parkerfe

    parkerfe F1 World Champ

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    My aging memory I suppose...regardless, my point was that MS is a cheat and is even willing to risk the lives of others to carry out his cheating...which he clearly did with both Hill and Villeneau...and Alonso has already shown he is not an 'also ran' ...after all he won the 2005 WDC and in 2006 he is 10 points ahead with only one race to go...so just how much of an also ran is he? And as far as my lack of research is concerned, not much is needed when you're talking about the feces known as MS...I know what it smells like and it is coming from MS...
     
  8. tonyc

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    Good point. Shut up and win gracefully! I am in no way a FA fan, but we have to remember he is the youngest world champion and he is still young. I tend to give young people a pass the first few times they make mistakes :)
     
  9. classic308

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    Get your facts in order Counselor. My memory is fine.

    MS finished 10th @ Monza in '05; are you referring to the the San Marino GP in 2005? Kudos to FA for holding off MS while MS was in an inferior car. Pro-Ferrari FIA penalties? Like at Monte Carlo this year? Please.......

    Let us see what awaits young FA at McLaren in '07;when his car fails him let's see how he handles it. God forbid if his teammate starts beating him.....
     
  10. tonyc

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    I do not think FA's WDC is tainted. He won without cheating using the giving rules at the time. I hate having to defend the punk! Yeah, many times it is better to be lucky than good :D
     
  11. parkerfe

    parkerfe F1 World Champ

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    And just what company made that so called "...inferior car..." ? Was Alonso in on the design or construction of MS 2005 F1 car?
     
  12. tonyc

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    This might actually show us how smart he is. It is a preemptive strike putting everyone on notice to stay out of his way. So if he is fighting for position the other driver has to give up or else be accused of cheating in case of an accident.
     
  13. Steve B

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    FA should consider himself a very lucky man. When you look at the whole 2006 F1 season, it is clear that Ferrari and MS had the superior package for the second half of the season and, that, barring MS's engine failure at Suzuka, he (FA) would be at least 2 points down heading into the final race. As for MS taking FA out, what would this accomplish? Since usually both cars involved in such a manoeuvre are put out, it would most likely give FA the title outright. Now, Felipe Massa? I really doubt if he would do such a thing. However, just in case, I would think that FA will drive a very conservative race, avoiding risky moves and just try to finish in the points. That is all he needs for the championship.
     
  14. DGS

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    After all -- they're all is out to get him.

    Sometimes paranoia can be self-fulfilling.

    Run around crying that everyone hates you, and pretty soon you'll be right. ;)
     
  15. curtisc63

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    Massa and Ferrari can not afford to have him take anyone out as has been pointed out due to the WCC. Ralf (he must have been adopted) would likely miss or screw it up in some other way. But what about the other teams that have a decided interest in Ferrari this year and next? Remember there will be 6 cars fielding Ferrari engines next year. Not all of their drivers have a lot to risk to ensure the new engine supplier wins the WCC. Think about it...

    As for MS, he certainly has his fans and perhaps an equal number of detractors on this forum and everywhere else. However, youdo have to give him credit for the way he handles himself with the press and his team. I thought it amazing that after his first engine failure in 5 years that almost surely lost him his 8th WDC he made it a point to go through the garage and console his team individually. Maybe I am blinded by his pure talent but I could put blame on either driver in the aforementioned incidents over the years. Can you say racing incident? As for Monte Carlo this year, it takes a very educated man about the sport and all of its rules to try and take advantage of them:

    1. I personally think he blew the corner trying to best his time because he knew FA was on a hot lap behind him.
    2. He probably could have gotten out of the situation by waiting for a push back from the marshall (overheating the engine in the process) or tearing the front wing off the car. Neither very good for a tough race the following day.
    3. Let's paly it out and stall the car - taking advantage of an unfortunate situation.

    Sometimes the difference between being extremely clever/smart or "cheating" is a very fine line.

    I for one will certainly miss seeing his talent displayed on the tracks of F1 next year.

    CC
     
  16. classic308

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    That would be Ferrari-I'm sure you've heard of them Parker. You know the same team that has contested every WC since its inception, the team with the most GP victories and CC, etc.

    The only team in F1 that had the class of removing their sponsership stickers, etc. and running a black nosecone after the 9/11 attacks; the same team that employs MS, or "the feces" as you refer to him, that same MS who has easily contibuted more to charities that the rest of the F1 grid combined over the last 5 years, the same MS that your boy FA secretly yearns to be but never will....
     
  17. ricksb

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    I think that was Don King...
     
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    Tell that to Robert Doornbas...I won't say Felipe Massa because that was unintentional IMO.
     
  19. The K Reloaded

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    Agreed. Might as well put it out there in the open lest anyone forget what a scumbag MS can be.
     
  20. classic308

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    FA mixing it up with a third driver-twice-shows one that he has much to learn;maybe it will come with age/experience, maybe it won't.....
     
  21. parkerfe

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    Don't forget, Alonso has had a mechnical DNF in 2006 too as well as two undeserved grid penalties without which he would now be leading by an even greater margin...Go Alonso!!!
     
  22. parkerfe

    parkerfe F1 World Champ

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    You are correct...and since F1 is a team sport, you must have a good car and driver to win the WCC and/or the WDC...As far as 9/11 or 11/9 as it is written in Europe where both Ferrari and MS are from, that was pure marketing...the USA is Ferraris largest market and they were obliged to show some support...and I respect that they did...but, they have also bowed down to some of the very Muslim countries that caused 9/11 to sell cars too...and why would Alonso want to be an ugly old(relatively), married German when he is a handsome young single Spanard?...and I suspect Flavio has shown him some of the ropes with the ladies as well...Go Alonso...we at FChat love you...
     
  23. barbazza

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    It's Flavio, not Flabio. Flabio is the fat guy that did the Fabio style calenders. And no, I don't have one...
     
  24. classic308

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    Speak for yourself Parker.....
     
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