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An update to the rules for 2007 season

Discussion in 'Other Racing' started by speedy_sam, Oct 18, 2006.

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  1. speedy_sam

    speedy_sam F1 Veteran

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  2. Tifoso1

    Tifoso1 F1 Rookie

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    Does this mean that a car fitted with a new engine can run on Friday but by Saturday, they will have to put the engine used on the previous race weekend back in? Or does this mean that if one suffers an engine failure on Friday with the same engine used on the previous weekend, they can change it without being penalized? If the second case is true, then what's stopping a team/driver from blowning up an engine (Mansell was famous for this, if he does not like the engine on his car and his engineers refuse to change it for him, he will just over rev it on the track to mandate an engine change) on purpose on Friday, so they can have a fresh engine for every race?

    Still can't believe they are going ahead with this standard FIA ECU. Does anyone know what this ECU will allow and disallow a team to do?
     
  3. Remy Zero

    Remy Zero Two Time F1 World Champ

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    i don't understand the safety car part.
     
  4. BMW.SauberF1Team

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    Wow. Just wow.
     
  5. speedy_sam

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    It is easiest to understand this rule if you treat Friday as a true test day and the race weekend as officially beginning on Saturday. The race engine will be have to last two races - meaning two consecutive Saturdays and Sundays. On Fridays the teams can use a completely different engine to test with - so no need to conserve the lump. An engine failure on Friday will not cause any grid penalties. By contrast, an engine penalty on Saturday will definitely cause a grid penalty.

    I think the standard ECU is to remove any clever computer manipulations on the traction control/engine management side to give more speed thru corners.

    It sounds pretty straightforward. They are trying to achieve two objectives: a) In the restart after the safety car pulls in there will be no lapped cars/backmarkers in front or between the cars leading the race and b) Ensure that the cars pull into the pits at an organized pace like Nascar and not race to the pits like today.
     
  6. BMW.SauberF1Team

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    So would there be two pit stalls or just the teammate waiting behind the other like what happened to MS?
     
  7. speedy_sam

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    I think it will be the latter - I doubt there will be enough space for 22 cars to have pit stops simultaneously - particularly at the older circuits with smaller pitlanes.

    Otherwise, the teams could elect to send the lead driver immediately in and the second driver on the next lap around to use the pit stalls more effectively
     
  8. Prova85

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    I don't really understand this as how is MS's Brazil engine set to go to over 20K rpms if it's been homologated ? Is Massa's set to rev as high as well?

    Unless they're talking structurally homologated and not electronically as the ECU's will be spec starting next year anyway.
     
  9. 1_can_dream

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    I like the sound of the new safety car rules, should hopefully stop the huge advantages drivers are getting when the safety car gets out. However it's still a little confusing how they're explaining the engine rules. Like someone mentionaed before, could a team test friday with their race engine from the week before, and if it goes kaboom get no penalty for having to replace it?
     
  10. DGS

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    So everybody has to wait for the SAs and Spykers to unlap themselves and make a run around to "bunch up" at the back of the pack before anyone can pit?

    If the SC pulls out in front of the leader, the rest of the cars on the lead lap will be spread all over the lap -- but they have to line up in order, with everyone else unlapping themselves to get in line?

    Doesn't this mean that everyone who was one lap down will now be back on the lead lap?

    Spec tires, spec ECU, few engine suppliers, and now a "race reset" safety car?

    Somebody buy Max an X-box and tell him to use his cheat codes there, and leave F1 to actual racing.

    Maybe they should change the name to "Formula Wane". Or "Formula One-Size-Fits-All". :(

    FIA has killed WRC, is killing F1 -- Is FIA getting funding from the "cars are bad" campaign?
     
  11. dretceterini

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    I think the bottom line thinking is that the more liberal rules are, the fewer teams would be competitive, or even willing to compete. It's all about money to Bernie and Max.
     
  12. LongJohnSilver

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    Exactly. Apparently it is a huge disadvantage to be stuck behind a back marker at the restart, but not a huge disadvantage to the leader who has fought hard to lap such backmarkers and is now forced to let them drive back by.

    And how can you complain of a disadvantage at a restart when you have just been allowed to catch up whatever gap has been extended by the leader? So you get 20 seconds free then complain that the backmarker loses you 5?

    And they have to allow multiple pitstalls now! If you dont you will have 1 driver from each team being royally screwed. As the parade comes into the pit lane, you will have the lead car from each team (not the #1 but the car in the lead) pull into the pits, the 2nd car will have to stack. The cars will be so close together coming in, almost every one of the 1st cars from each team will get out before any of the 2nd cars can.

    If they dont stack and just stay out for a lap the same thing will happen. The first cars will come in, the 2nd cars will continue around at a slow pace behind the SC. Well before the 2nd cars get back around, the 1st cars will be out and able to cruise around the track faster than SC speeds. They will catch the SC and the 2nd cars will then come out and all be in the second half of the parade.
     
  13. Remy Zero

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    thanx for the info. i still need to see this in real life to get the feel of it
     

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