It should also have newer wheels. Those wheels are being overused.
If anyone believes they will ever see a US spec 430 CS they are dreaming. The DOT consent to allow the 430 to be sold until the end of the 2008 model specifically precludes any changes in the current spec and dealers are now informing their 430 customers that all 430 deliveries in the US will be labeled 2006 model year cars. BTW the photos show a car without side lights which is a U.S. spec requirement.
I agree. Brand new wheels would be nice to really set it apart from the regular 430 or the 360 CS. I do think they will add the final touches to the body. No need to do that right now and give it away. Some type of stripe option would also be nice.
I wonder what they will do about the seats for US versions? A revised "race" seat perhaps? I can't imagine having Daytonas in a CS :/ Good point, I can't see the DOT going for that exhaust either.
At what point do they consider subtle changes to the 430? To me moving exhaust placement and minor body and interior tweaks don't constitute what the DOT means by changing the 430. This car doesn't need side markers because obviously it is a development car and not a US bound production car. I also find it hard to believe that there will be no 430's labeled 07's. As a matter of fact I read here that some owners had the option to take an 06 or wait 2 months for the 07 from their dealer so I am not buying the 06 designation for the remaining 430's. Just my opinion of coarse.
Why is that exhaust placement any different than a Carrera GT or the new Lambo LP that is now in the center?
If I am not mistaken...doesnt the 599 have a sport seat option? made by recaro? If the 430 CS does exist and does come to the US, then couldn't the CS use the same 599 sport seats? ...and if there is an issue now that prevents the current 430s from using them, at least Ferrari has now at least a year to work out the kinks? btw - thanks for the picts! Some hope is better than no hope
I have an 07 430 Spyder in production.As confirmed by Dealer. I think there will be an 08 430CS.The exceptions granted by DOT will allow a CS to be produced it may not be identical in spec to the old CS but it will come.
I also have a 07 car (F1 coupe) in production. On the order form it says: Drive type: M07 - US MY 2007 version: Vehicle: 430 Coupe F1 USA MY 2007, scheduled for February completion. Al
Al, my order says the same thing '07 everywhere but my car is an '06. Let us know after you confirm with your dealer if your car is indeed an '07.
Jimmy: Interesting. How do you know that your car is an 06? Do you have any official document that says that or just what the dealer said? I do know that my dealer said it will be a 2007. But how do we know for sure that is the case? What is the delivery date say on your order sheet? I was told that the delivery date on the order sheet is the delievery date at Modena, not here in the US. Al
I've been told by a Ferrari dealer that FNA can get an extension to the exemption or they may make the changes by that time to continue production for US market...but then again I've been told many other things, some have been true and some are not.
Al my order had 07 on it but when the car actually went into production Ferrari changed the car to 06. Since I already had a an 06 I canceled my order. I'm waiting until Ferrari gets their act together and confirms 07 builds.
hate so say it but i'm rather disappointed. With a 360 there is no mistaking what you're looking at, that car could easily be confused with any other 430.
Don't hold your breath waiting for an actual 07. All of the orders say 2007. The delivery confirmations are all (so far) marked 2006.
The airbag issue that caused all of this confusion is not going to be fixed by Ferrari in the 430. They do indeed have a Recaro Sport seat in the 599 that conforms to the airbag regs, but they will not invest in the changes required to make that seat work in a 430. All you may get regarding a CS type variant, if they do anything at all, is a warmed over 430 with CF door skins, but no material changes to the car at all, especially in terms of mechanical bits. If they build it, it will be a 2006 model, as the DOT agreement specifically prohibits them from making a 2007 model that does not conform to the new airbag regs. Someone already posted the actual regulation here (Fchatter NERD). I'm not sure where to find it and post a link, but it makes interesting reading.
Thanks for the post. As an owner of a 360CS in North America who's not interested in a 430 but would be interested in a 430CS, here's my reaction; 1) Its difficult to distinguish the car in the photo from a 430 coupe as pointed out by others. To say its awesome, cool, etc., suggests its being viewed by a first time ferrari affectionado! Personally, and like some others, I prefer the lines of the 360CS, so I do hope that a 430CS adds some more bells and whistles to grab me visually, and at least please come up with some original wheels and maybe a pumpkin colored stripe; 2) Don't want a half-baked 430 CS -- in terms of weight reduction -- should it make it to the NA market. And if it does come half-baked, don't want to be tormented by all the reviews of a 430CS euro model that performs so much better than the NA cousin. With greater weight loss in euro versions with carbon fibre racing seats vs., leather products in NA versions in view of the airbag issues, this is likely to be a notable issue. 3) Don't relish forking out a whole lot of $$ for a hyped 430 CS on the tail of a NA market with hugely inflated 430 coupe and spider prices, unless I'm getting a true street/track advantage in the 430CS. In other words, 20 more HP alone isn't enough to turn my crank on a heavier 430 that's still likely to see the tail lights of a 997TT (especially if it gets the Ruf treatment). Will 360CS prices take a hit with a fully lightened and more powerful 430CS in countries outside NA; probably yes. Will the same apply to 360CSs in NA if a psuedo-430CS that's heavier, conforming to US standards, and vastly overpriced arrives on the market? Don't hold your breath. Having voiced my views, I now take my seat in the peanut gallery to observe what happens.
Thanks for the post. As an owner of a 360CS in North America who's not interested in a 430 but would be interested in a 430CS, here's my reaction; 1) Its difficult to distinguish the car in the photo from a 430 coupe as pointed out by others. To say its awesome, cool, etc., suggests its being viewed by a first time ferrari affectionado! Personally, and like some others, I prefer the lines of the 360CS, so I do hope that a 430CS adds some more bells and whistles to grab me visually, and at least please come up with some original wheels and maybe a pumpkin colored stripe; 2) Don't want a half-baked 430 CS -- in terms of weight reduction -- should it make it to the NA market. And if it does come half-baked, don't want to be tormented by all the reviews of a 430CS euro model that performs so much better than the NA cousin. With greater weight loss in euro versions with carbon fibre racing seats vs., leather products in NA versions in view of the airbag issues, this is likely to be a notable issue. 3) Don't relish forking out a whole lot of $$ for a hyped 430 CS on the tail of a NA market with hugely inflated 430 coupe and spider prices, unless I'm getting a true street/track advantage in the 430CS. In other words, 20 more HP alone isn't enough to turn my crank on a heavier 430 that's still likely to see the tail lights of a 997TT (especially if it gets the Ruf treatment). Will 360CS prices take a hit with a fully lightened and more powerful 430CS in countries outside NA; probably yes. Will the same apply to 360CSs in NA if a psuedo-430CS that's heavier, conforming to US standards, and vastly overpriced arrives on the market? Don't hold your breath. Having voiced my views, I now take my seat in the peanut gallery to observe what happens.
Thanks for the post. As an owner of a 360CS in North America who's not interested in a 430 but would be interested in a 430CS, here's my reaction; 1) Its difficult to distinguish the car in the photo from a 430 coupe as pointed out by others. To say its awesome, cool, etc., suggests its being viewed by a first time ferrari affectionado! Personally, and like some others, I prefer the lines of the 360CS, so I do hope that a 430CS adds some more bells and whistles to grab me visually, and at least please come up with some original wheels and maybe a pumpkin colored stripe; 2) Don't want a half-baked 430 CS -- in terms of weight reduction -- should it make it to the NA market. And if it does come half-baked, don't want to be tormented by all the reviews of a 430CS euro model that performs so much better than the NA cousin. With greater weight loss in euro versions with carbon fibre racing seats vs., leather products in NA versions in view of the airbag issues, this is likely to be a notable issue. 3) Don't relish forking out a whole lot of $$ for a hyped 430 CS on the tail of a NA market with hugely inflated 430 coupe and spider prices, unless I'm getting a true street/track advantage in the 430CS. In other words, 20 more HP alone isn't enough to turn my crank on a heavier 430 that's still likely to see the tail lights of a 997TT (especially if it gets the Ruf treatment). Will 360CS prices take a hit with a fully lightened and more powerful 430CS in countries outside NA; probably yes. Will the same apply to 360CSs in NA if a psuedo-430CS that's heavier, conforming to US standards, and vastly overpriced arrives on the market? Don't hold your breath. Having voiced my views, I now take my seat in the peanut gallery to observe what happens.
Thanks for the post. As an owner of a 360CS in North America who's not interested in a 430 but would be interested in a 430CS, here's my reaction; 1) Its difficult to distinguish the car in the photo from a 430 coupe as pointed out by others. To say its awesome, cool, etc., suggests its being viewed by a first time ferrari affectionado! Personally, and like some others, I prefer the lines of the 360CS, so I do hope that a 430CS adds some more bells and whistles to grab me visually, and at least please come up with some original wheels and maybe a pumpkin colored stripe; 2) Don't want a half-baked 430 CS -- in terms of weight reduction -- should it make it to the NA market. And if it does come half-baked, don't want to be tormented by all the reviews of a 430CS euro model that performs so much better than the NA cousin. With greater weight loss in euro versions with carbon fibre racing seats vs., leather products in NA versions in view of the airbag issues, this is likely to be a notable issue. 3) Don't relish forking out a whole lot of $$ for a hyped 430 CS on the tail of a NA market with hugely inflated 430 coupe and spider prices, unless I'm getting a true street/track advantage in the 430CS. In other words, 20 more HP alone isn't enough to turn my crank on a heavier 430 that's still likely to see the tail lights of a 997TT (especially if it gets the Ruf treatment). Will 360CS prices take a hit with a fully lightened and more powerful 430CS in countries outside NA; probably yes. Will the same apply to 360CSs in NA if a psuedo-430CS that's heavier, conforming to US standards, and vastly overpriced arrives on the market? Don't hold your breath. Having voiced my views, I now take my seat in the peanut gallery to observe what happens.
Thanks for the post. As an owner of a 360CS in North America who's not interested in a 430 but would be interested in a 430CS, here's my reaction; 1) Its difficult to distinguish the car in the photo from a 430 coupe as pointed out by others. To say its awesome, cool, etc., suggests its being viewed by a first time ferrari affectionado! Personally, and like some others, I prefer the lines of the 360CS, so I do hope that a 430CS adds some more bells and whistles to grab me visually, and at least please come up with some original wheels and maybe a pumpkin colored stripe; 2) Don't want a half-baked 430 CS -- in terms of weight reduction -- should it make it to the NA market. And if it does come half-baked, don't want to be tormented by all the reviews of a 430CS euro model that performs so much better than the NA cousin. With greater weight loss in euro versions with carbon fibre racing seats vs., leather products in NA versions in view of the airbag issues, this is likely to be a notable issue. 3) Don't relish forking out a whole lot of $$ for a hyped 430 CS on the tail of a NA market with hugely inflated 430 coupe and spider prices, unless I'm getting a true street/track advantage in the 430CS. In other words, 20 more HP alone isn't enough to turn my crank on a heavier 430 that's still likely to see the tail lights of a 997TT (especially if it gets the Ruf treatment). Will 360CS prices take a hit with a fully lightened and more powerful 430CS in countries outside NA; probably yes. Will the same apply to 360CSs in NA if a psuedo-430CS that's heavier, conforming to US standards, and vastly overpriced arrives on the market? Don't hold your breath. Having voiced my views, I now take my seat in the peanut gallery to observe what happens.
Thanks for the post. As an owner of a 360CS in North America who's not interested in a 430 but would be interested in a 430CS, here's my reaction; 1) Its difficult to distinguish the car in the photo from a 430 coupe as pointed out by others. To say its awesome, cool, etc., suggests its being viewed by a first time ferrari affectionado! Personally, and like some others, I prefer the lines of the 360CS, so I do hope that a 430CS adds some more bells and whistles to grab me visually, and at least please come up with some original wheels and maybe a pumpkin colored stripe; 2) Don't want a half-baked 430 CS -- in terms of weight reduction -- should it make it to the NA market. And if it does come half-baked, don't want to be tormented by all the reviews of a 430CS euro model that performs so much better than the NA cousin. With greater weight loss in euro versions with carbon fibre racing seats vs., leather products in NA versions in view of the airbag issues, this is likely to be a notable issue. 3) Don't relish forking out a whole lot of $$ for a hyped 430 CS on the tail of a NA market with hugely inflated 430 coupe and spider prices, unless I'm getting a true street/track advantage in the 430CS. In other words, 20 more HP alone isn't enough to turn my crank on a heavier 430 that's still likely to see the tail lights of a 997TT (especially if it gets the Ruf treatment). Will 360CS prices take a hit with a fully lightened and more powerful 430CS in countries outside NA; probably yes. Will the same apply to 360CSs in NA if a psuedo-430CS that's heavier, conforming to US standards, and vastly overpriced arrives on the market? Don't hold your breath. Having voiced my views, I now take my seat in the peanut gallery to observe what happens.
