Any Singapore Ferrari owners?

anyone noticed one of the latest condo is named Ferraria Park? do you guys think the developers trying to bank on the Ferrari name or they coincidentally name it after the flower?

 

Haha, yes saw that on TV & the papers. The developer is CDL if I'm not wrong, wonder who's idea is that. Does Quek go for exotic cars? I've only seen him being chauffeured & Is it a flower's name?

 

the 'don't lift off mid corner' advise is very sound.

but at the same time , that bit of advise is premised on your
having sane entry speeds. The law of physics knows no master.

if you've completely cooked the corner , then its a mix of judicious
steering , throttle and braking corrections to try to keep the car.
even then , the car can still be lost.

but fight till the end , never give up. We always have alot of
respect for the drivers that fight to 'catch' the car.

BUT , once you know you've completely lost the car , stand on the
brakes and ( I was told - but am never brave enough to do it myself ),
let go of the steering wheel and cross your arms. [ I wager that this
bit is crazy and is meant for track-cars with roll bars/raceseats/harness,
etc ].

cheers.

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absolutely on the spot correct - it all depends - no absolute rules with driving - your "fast" and my "fast" may be different - recommend practice with large run off area first.

 

Aiyah dun ask stupid question, this one definately a sinker lar! Not enough fiber

 

Got to agree with this. This is what the Porsche guys do a lot!! I would not be keen to do it but we see it on the in-car video play backs after every race, as it is rare that they escape a whole race without a 'moment'.

Luckily I do not have this problem, as with my front wheel drive car (mini), the solution is to keep the pedal down hard (which is often just as hard to do when the natural tendency is to back-off and wind out some opp lock). With FWD, you give opp lock but add power and use back-off to pull you out of spins or to get you into turns.

That is why a FWd will be able to take a tighter entry line, turn in, lift suddenly, let tail come around abit, then add power to pull the car through the corner. Great for the inside run at the end of the straight.

FF

 

hi FF,

I understand that racing drivers are taught to let go of the steering wheel
and cross their arms to prevent being hurt by the steering wheel reacting
to the spinning of the car (quick ratio steering racks .... ).

That and so you don't have your arms peering out of the windows as the
car starts to roll. [ ie , Keep All Your Hands And Legs In The Vehicle At
All Times ... hehe ].

crazy stuff - I have no personal knowledge - don't vouch for whether it
works or not - try it on track only please.

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yo FF,

thats good advice for FWD drivers.

once the tail starts to go wide , you need to keep the throttle steady , and
dail in the oppo-lock. If you let go of the throttle all together , the tail will
go , you start to oppo-lock like mad , and the car will snap-spin (ie , it is
now unrecoverable).

with good tyres , suspension setup and a decent amount of neg camber
up front, a FWD is very nice / fun to drive on track. Its very forgiving to
the driver. Ie , unlike RWD. And esp. unlike mid-engine RWD.

cheers and good discussion.

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According to an article in The Edge some 6 months ago, Kwek L B owns 'a Porsche, a Ferrari and a Maybach'. I also understand that he loves Astons and have owned at least 1 or more in the past.

In an interview several months ago on his very high-end St. Regis development, he likened his project to a 'Ferrari vs a Mazda (or was it Toyota)', so I won't be surprised that Ferraria Park was named with the F-car in mind.

 

Dont let go of the steering wheel,

keep it pointed straight..

the reason is to keep the car (at least the steering pointed straight)

if you left go of the steering, should you leave the track, the wheels if not pointed straight would tend to "dig" in and flip you over.

The key when you know you totally lost it, is the "both feet in"(clutch and brake) and try to keep the car pointed straight.

Again...NEVER NEVER take your hands off the steering unless you know you are going to flip...

now pistole...Flip over..its time for your daily spank

hahah

 

Yup, both feet in with the 911. Experienced it first hand with my old 3.2 which I lost control off- quickest way to come to a halt rather than to fight it if you are not sure if you can make it. Funny enough, also lost it in my Carrera 4 some years later running over an oil patch, figured I could fight it and ended up really losing it, finally did both feet in and the car came to a safe halt. After enough of these instances found that the newer 911s (post 1990) were actually quite fun to balance with the throttle and brake... but few yers later, after lots of fun oversteer experiences, undesteered my 993 into a tree- just as I decided to lift off the throttle quickly to induce some oversteer and play with the brakes to try and make the tight corner- where is oversteer when you need it???

And yes, I am a crap driver. Those rear engines are fun at the limit... but nothing compared to the 348 which seems to have provided me with a whole new definition of slow in fast out and SMMMMMMOOOOOOTTTTHHHHH driving. Anything else and this car seems to handle worse than a 1967 2.7 911 with two rear flats.... man.... I induce oversteer and I cant seem to catch it in this car... is it mid engined cars or just the 348... come to think of it it must be my driving skill (or ahem lack of it).

 

hehe.

everyone seems to have had some pretty interesting experiences with
their cars on the road ...

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This is right. You should only let go of the wheel if you are beyond recovery by steering. I hope I don't have to do it myself.

FF

 

True. I run with 2 degrees on the front and the back about 1 degree. The other factor is toe-in and out which affect the cars turn in and behaviour throughthe corner.

FWD are generally much easier to handle once you get the hang of going against your natural tendencies. You still have the car balanced on throttle when on the limit but the way you set up the car for the corner is different.

FF

 

Mid-engined cars feel much safer at 99% but then are generally hard to handle once you hit 100%. The Porsche's pendulum balance (rear engine over rear wheels) makes it break away earlier and thus telegraphs what is happening so that you have more time to manage it.

My Mondial is fantastic at ten-tenths but this is mostly because the narrower tyres (215s + 225s) I have on it vs your newer cars help it break away earlier and drift rather than spin. Slight front breakaway gives me the warning I need to allow my average reaction times enough to dial in the right response.

I hope this continues to bethe case.

FF

 

folding the hands to the body, hanging on to the harnesses and heads down is standard vehicle over-turn drill. so far its for cars with roll cage and harnesses.. don't think it will work with normal seatbelts. Purpose is to avoid driver natural reaction to hold on to the roll-cage when the car over-turn and get his fingers smashed, avoid being thrown out and minimise overall injury

my suspicions could be correct

 

Good one !

I saw that interview on the telly where he said "you know, St Regis is like a Ferrari, the best.." As a matter of interest, does he own a Lambo ?

 

This is a great discussion.

Anyone know of any driving school locally or in Malaysia? I'd love to be able to learn more...

 

Ferraria Park is by Hong Leong. Like my condo. My condo got so many cracks and defects, my father has an appointment with Kwek Leng Beng to come and see the condition of our unit. There are units even worse than ours!

Wah then when St. Regis is launched, got one more place to spot Exotic Cars. They will snatch away all the exotics from Hilton and Hyatt!

 

aiyoh so poor thing.. made me change my mind abt moving to a condo.. anyway prices are up.. so i'll be staying longer in my small crack-less hdb flat.

 

hi.

if you own a BMW in Singapore , you can join their Advanced Drivers
Training which is held very regularly here at Pasir Gudang (Johor Bahru).

they bus you in from Singapore and you use the new 3 series which
are kept permanently at PGudang (many units).

the basics of car handling are taught. skidpad , abs , avoidance. But its
RWD training.

track-craft , you're going to have to learn yourself or hook up with
some track kakis.

cheers.
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Not sure if Kwek L B has the time to visit your unit - Ha ha!

I presume that your condo was also developed by either the Hong Leong group or CDL. It's surprising to hear that it's got 'so many cracks and defects' as the developer is not known for bad quality/workmanship. Must be the contractor's fault...

 

hi guys, yes i am the new owner of the red 355 spider sold by autoinc 2 wks back. in fact by buddy bot the gts from them as well a month back. so we have 2 more saved 355s :- )

hope to meet up with fellow owners and share the enthusiasm. btw, lung, tks for your shared info. cheers.

 

Wow, Absolut. You've got companies!

Welcome Rara355, I was having steamboat along Beach rd last week when you drove pass & everybody turned to look. There was about a hundred people there. Your exhaust is loud & we love it! Bet you'll get headache after a long drive especially in a spider. A red F360 with challenge grille came by & was pale in comparism.

 

tks... beach rd ? dun recall being there... only collected the car late last wk. yes the tubi exhaust is a little too loud for my liking... tot of changing back to the stock exhaust. btw do you drive a red tessa... i see it quite often abt 8 in the morning along holland road..