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I think your the one FOS because i don't think you'll be there. how about you sign a contract with me that you'll be there, or you me owe $1000 bucks? how about that? i'll go with those agreements. puhaha no one is offering but I AM OFFERING ANYONE TO COME LOOK AT MY ACCOUNT. LIKE I SAID BEFORE I AM WILLING TO MEET ANYONE LOCAL TO ME. DO YOU NOT GET THAT??? How is a 2 hr drive local to me?

 

huh yea so where does it say that i'm a financial advisor? i said if you wanted more info about the stock pm me. lol how does that say i'm a financial advisor stop duckin the question!!!! WHY IS THE STOCK CSHD TRADING IF IT WAS A SCAM LIKE YOU CLAIM IT WAS??????

 

You doubt there is a Georgia Government?? Wow, dont tell Sonny Perdue!!

 

Don't start that escrow account crap again, it's old and tired at this point. YOU have everything to prove and I don't. You should be thanking me for the opportunity.

Grow up for your own sake and accept my offer while I still happen to care.

 

When you said:

You claimed to be able to advise us on this dog stock. Since you are not a broker, you are offering financial advice and violating several state and federal laws.

Do you deign offering more information on a stock investment in the 6th post in this thread?

 

Arright my last post for the night since i know full well drstrangelove will never admit he's wrong and that he got TOTALLY OWNED!!! He'll only twist things and say bla bla bla without backing it up. enjoy talking to yourself lil baby.

To the guy who offered to meet me: I'll meet you if i know 100% you'll be there and you won't ***** out like i know you will. Later guys. I honestly think this is fun butting heads with people who claim to be "successful" and actually owning them at the same time. makes me hella alot stronger intellectually. now only if you guys could come up with content worth learning, i'll appreciate that. i don't want to learn garbage. i see enough of it on mtv or bet.i come here to get away from that, but what a surprise i'm learning the same crap from you guys; GARBAGE. Peace out!

 

Yeah, see you and your cowardice in 15 minutes.

 

This from the boy-coward.

I think Spanky needs a title now.

How does 'Fradie-Cat strike you Darth?

 

How about Stock Spankster aka Junior....

 

If you click on the link above look at the bottom and notice what it sais in the coment section........ JJ

To spanky We loved owning you. From your pals at Ferrari Chat and we raise our glasses to the one idiot that could buy 100,000 shares of this Flea Laden Dog stock and still have the nerve to creat the longest Fchat discussion about how good it was as it was sinking into the ocean with flames... Now the entire public can read about it.. Your Pals at Ferrari Chat....

http://www.ferrarichat.com/forum/showthread.php?t=127127

 

I think you hit the nail on the head with Spanky...

 

All the filing says is that the CSHD submitted the documents as evidence of their assertions. Whether that evidence is determined to be true hasn't been judged yet.

All sorts of crap trades. Enron traded and STILL trades; but its books were bogus even while it traded. Trading is not proof of anything other than that the halt order expired. The SEC and the courts are bureaucratic entities - their mills grind slowly, but exceedingly fine.

The SEC says CSHD is crap. Multiple websites have been linked that say CSHD is crap. All the posters on this site say CSHD is crap, other than you. You say the SEC, all these websites and all the posters here, other than you, are idiots.

Simple question for you. Where did the money to buy these $6B in bonds come from? It must have come from somewhere. $6B in bonds isn't just found on the street and added to a corporations asset base without paying for it somehow. And if someone knew that a penny stock holding company or precursors to a reverse-merged company had somehow acquired title to $6B in bonds, why wouldn't they just buy up majority ownership for pennies and take home most or all of the value? NO ONE GIVES AWAY $6B BECAUSE THEY'RE BEING NICE GUYS.

 

Thank you for writing something worth responding to. ok i'll explain. here we go read carefully and understand.

First of all the SEC did say it was crap, and they had their chance to prove CSHD fraud. Proof that they are not fraud? They began trading after discovery. Now if this was a scam under no circumstances would the judge let this trade. why? Because the sec and the judge are here to protect shareholders. Also look here http://www.digitalislandsinc.com/misc/index.html. If you notice the sec filed for a tro which they got and receivership of the company if they proved CSHD was fraud. Well is the company running under receivership? no. It's under Michael Alexander former ceo of the company they merged with. If it was a scam and remember the SEC had ample time to prove this and all the necessary resources to prove it the company would be under receivership by the SEC and the company would be liquidated and not be traded after the suspension was over. Euroclear gave a deposition to verify CSHD's ownership of the bonds. That is why they are still trading.

Now for your " simple question. " Now go here http://sec.gov/cgi-bin/browse-edgar?company=furia&CIK=&filenum=&State=&SIC=&owner=include&action=getcompany
and here www.gsccca.org to the filings and read them and you will see who issued those bonds to CSHD. Now read the 10ksb/a and the merger agreements like you should've had before asking these questions and they would have been answered. These bonds are given to cshd for them to be able to hypothecate them in order to fund their joint venture companies. In return the issuers that gave ownership of the bonds to cshd receive 50% of the profits CSHD and their JVS make.

Now let me give you one example to one of their JVS. The reason i give you this example is the person who started it and runs the website is located in NEW PORT BEACH. I forget where the 949 contact number was but it's there. i'll find out and let you know and maybe one of the locals know this person since he is from Newport Beach. Here's the website www.pointclickdream.com. This is going to be a major cash cow imo just because it's a national lottery online. Their JVS will be funded once they hypothecate the bonds, which is soon. It would have been sooner but there has been alot of drama with this stock. anyways check it out.

Ok now for this question: "And if someone knew that a penny stock holding company or precursors to a reverse-merged company had somehow acquired title to $6B in bonds, why wouldn't they just buy up majority ownership for pennies and take home most or all of the value? "

Here's the answer: how do you know no one bought the original shares? in fact if you look at the volume traded during the summer the whole float was bought out days after the merger was announced. For someone to buy shares they have to buy at the market. the company can't make a contract with someone just to buy the whole float. that would be insider trading. you have to buy at the market. the whole float was bought after the merger was announced. Now here's the big question? Where the hell did these extra shares come from when the stock was trading if the whole float was bought out the first days of trading? That's where the naked short selling came in. There's about 75 million shorted shares (FTDS, whatever you wanna call it). that's illegal and that's fraud.

This is fact. Some indian guy in europe bought 42 million shares of CSHD on the Berlin exchange. Ho w is that possible when the real shares were bought out earlier by other shareholders? a: naked short selling/fraud. How the hell does the stock trade on the Berlin exchange without the company's consent? A: RICO ring/Fraudsters/shrters/etc. That person was questioned by his own broker how he could possibly own the entire float. He responded: " You tell me, you guys were the one that sold them to me. " There is a alrge number of naked shorts in this. like i said when REGULATION SHO is enforced the shorts have to cover at whatever price the shareholders are willing to sell. Combine that with the 6:1 additional shares that will create a HUGE SHORT SQUEEZE that will hypothetically bring the price up to $30-100 in a matter of hours/days. research stocks that have created a short squeeze and you will see some that have gone from .13-$30. of course they were reverse mergers. go here www.shellstockreview.com for examples.

Another thing how do you know some institutions didn't buy shares. There were institutional names included in the shareholder's list on the website. It's not there anymore because the website is currently being updated to the current events. I did save the list of some of the big names that were included in the list. remember the list was provided by the ADP and not by the company. Here are the names:

Compiled Institutionals from NOBO
VILLAGES OF KAPOLEI ASSOC TTEE
TN VALLEY AUTHORITY
VERSATRADE INC
THE ADVISORS GROUP
THE BANK OF KUWAIT AND THE MIDDLE EA JOINT BANKING CENTER
THE JULIA A WEEKS TRUST
THE LUCKY SUPER FUND
THE PAUL FRIEDMAN 2006 IRREV
THE SAUDI INVESTMENT BANK
THE THORDARSON FAMILY TRUST
T L B INVESTMENTS L L C
T R PRODUCTION INC
SUNDAR COMMUNICATIONS GROUP IN
STOCK HOLDING INVESTMENT TEAM
STERNE AGEE CAPITAL MARKETS
STATE OF CA STATE CONTROLLERS
STATE STREET BANK & TRUST TTEE CINGULAR WIRELESS
STATE STREET BANK TTEE NORTHROP GRUMMAN SAV PLAN
STATE STREET TTEE QWEST SAVINGS & INVESTMENT PL
SSL INC
SOUTH MISSISSIPPI TIMBER INC
SOUTHWEST SECURITIES INC.
SHAZAMSTOCKS INC KEN WEINER
SELF TRADE SA TRADING
SAVVY LLC
SAXO BANK A/S
SARGENT & LUNDY SIP
RPM AST TRUST PSP SEAVIEW ORTHOPEDICS TTEE
RSBCO
RBM FINANCIAL INC
PEPSICO
OLD MUTUAL MGMT PSP & PL
ON THE ROAD AGAIN INC
ORACLE CORPORATION
NORTHRUP GRUMMAN
NORDNET BANK AB
NM & CCO NIC CTI 401 K
NETSPAN DIRECT INC
NEWPORT CAPTL CONSULTANTS INC
NATIONAL CLEARING CORP
NATIONAL INDEPENDENT TRUST COMPANY
MD IMAGING INC PR SH PLAN
MAXIM GROUP LLC
LYONDELL-CITGO PETRO CHEMICAL
LEON HARRIS TRUST
KNIGHT EQUITY MARKETS L.P. OTCBB - SILVERMAN DAVE
KEYTRADE BANK SA-NV
KEYTRADE LUXEMBOURG S.A.
K.L.L.G LLC
K2 MORTGAGE LLC
JEROME STEVENS PHARMACEUTICALS
INTERACTIVE BROKERS LLC
HSBC PRIVATE BANK (SUISSE) SA
HAYES COFFEY & BERRY PC
HABERN LIMITED PARTNERSHIP
GOLDMAN SACHS EXC & CLR LP E/B FAO THIRD POINT PARTNERS
GOLFING EDGE COM INC
FREESCALE SEMICONDUCTOR PS
FIRST BAPTIST CHURCH @ HARMONY JOE MURRAY
FLEXTRONICS
EPOWER INC.
EQUISTAR NON-REPRESENTED PLAN
EQUISTAR SIP
EQUISTAR SIP
EQUITY INVENTORY
EQUITY TRADING - DALLAS
ECOM DIVERSIFIED TECH INC
DELAWARE STATE ESCHEATOR
D.J.K. MARKETING INC
CORPORATE STRATEGIES GROUP LLC
CORTAL CONSORS GERMANY
CONTINENTAL AUTO INC
COMERICA SECS INC WORTH SEC ACCT
CONGREGATION ABU SHOLEM SHABAZI
CENTRAL AMERICAN LIFE INSURANC
CAIXA BANCO DE INVESTIMENTO SA
C & L ERWIN INC
C J Z ENTERPRISES PTY LTD
C SCHWAB & J SCHWAB TTEE
BLUE AND GOLD VENTURES LLC
BEST GOLDEN COMPANY PTY LTD STANLY BOYLE
BANG ORN G TTEE
BANK HAPOALIM B.M.
BANK ONE TRUST CO TTEE STATE OF CALIFORNIA SPP
BANKINTER SA
ASPLIN CORPORATION
ASSOCIATED PHYSICIANS SAV PLAN
ATA 401(K) RETIREMENT PLAN
ANZAK INC
ARCADIA OIL COMPANY
ACS UNCLAIMED PROPERTY
ABDULLAH ALYOUSEF
ABJ LLC
A HABITAT FOR LEARNING

Now here is an institutional you can look at on the sec website. This is PENN DAVIS MCFARLAND INC http://www.secinfo.com/d11QSy.vb.htm. They manage over $300 million in stocks and equities. NOTICE THEY OWN ALL BIG BOARD STOCKS except CSHD (CONVERSION SOLUTIONS). WHY WOULD THIS INSTITUTION THAT MANAGES OVER $300 MILLION IN STOCK AND EQUITIES OWN CSHD (CONVERSION SOLUTIONS) if this was a scam?

There are your answers to your questions. I hope they're sufficient enough to satisfy your curiousity and i hope you dd the company more as i know you will love the company and possibly buy the stock. I trully believe this is the opportunity of a life time. Also most of the major institutions don't buy stocks until they reach a certain price. this is fact. ask institutions. most of them have this policy.

 

Spanky Posted Today, 02:55 AM

You missed it by 15 min!!!

Bet it took him that long to type the thing.

 

You ignored my entire point about the expiration of the trading halt and the time it takes to prove fraud charges. Trading on gray sheets is NOT proof that CSHD is legitimate.

All you did was to defer the "who would give up $6B in value" question back one level. The holders of $6B in bonds aren't going to give up title to CSHD in exchange for a promise of profits. Even if they wanted to do business solely with CSHD (which is itself ridiculous, since CSHD has no track record in essentially a venture capital activity), they would assume 90-99% ownership of the company and do so through convertible preferred stock to ensure their priority position on the assets and ownership of the majority of the book value (i.e. the bonds) ahead of common stockholders. The common stockholders would get a hint of a taste, not the windfall you're salivating over. That's the way it is done.

Actually, they also own Isonics, another speculative sub-$1 stock. 12K shares of CSHD doesn't demonstrate much conviction on their part. If they really believed in it, they would go in for at least as much as a day-trader in Socal, like 100K shares. For all you know they were into CSHD at $0.10 and already out at $2.50. Apparently the fund manager isn't above an occasional flyer to keep things a little exciting for himself.

 

Trading anywhere after an investigation does make the company legitimate. Like i said under no circumstances would the judge let the stock trade if it was a scam TO PROTECT THE SHAREHOLDERS. WHAT DON'T YOU NOT GET FROM THAT?

" The holders of $6B in bonds aren't going to give up title to CSHD in exchange for a promise of profits."- These are not "promised profits." They are under contracts to produce profits. THEY ARE CONTRACTS. IT'S A WRITTEN AGREEMENT UNDER LAW THAT THEY HAVE TO FOLLOW!!! READ THE AGREEMENTS PLEASE!!!

Your right CSHD does not have any track record, but RUFUS PAUL HARRIS the former CEO who packaged the deals for the company has. If you read up on him he has 10 or more years in the BOND ORIGINATION MARKET. If you really did more extensive dd you'd find out he helped the republicans raise $5 bil, yes $5 bil, after 9/11 happened specifically to aid for 9/11 victims. You would also find out that phillipines contacted him to do a package for harvesting their national rainforest much like the ECOWOOD project. You would know that the nephew of the crown prince of dubai wanted to package a project in dubai through rufus and CSHD. Dubai wants to build an entertainment industry to rival HOLLYWOOD AND BOLLYWOOD. Rufus put these packages on hold to let CSHD finish their filings and their uplisting to nasdaq or amex. He has extensive knowledge and experience. If you took the time to dd and contact people then you would find out how credible the ceo is. Oh yeah did i tell you he's the nephew of former Georgia governor JOE FRANK HARRIS? The other former board of directors also have experience with bond origination. If you do more extensive dd you'll find that the executive vice president of GLOBAL INVESTMENTS, ROMEO VENDITTI, OWNS two banks in EUROPE particularly ITALY. These deals are under contract and already packaged. All the company has to do is hypothecate them and execute their jv companies. What don't you understand? Do these people sound like criminals to you? what do they have to gain from putting false prs or pumping this stock? there's a reason why it's called pump and dump. you pump the stock and then you dump your shares, however, there hasn't been any indication that the company has been dumping any shares in the market. That's why RUFUS would have no reason to pump up this stock, because they can't even sell their shares for at least 2 more years. They are restricted. Tell me what do they have to gain if this was pump and dump or scam?

I doubt you even read the all links i gave you or even read the www.gsccca.org website where the contracts are. if you read them you would understand as to why the bonds were given to cshd and so on. you would see those contracts and agreements and the laws they have to follow in those filings.

Before you ask me anymore questions go to that Georgia Supreme Court website and read the filings. STOP ASSUMING THINGS. COME UP WITH FACTS!

 

Isn't that an assumption on your part that the judge must act?

Isn't that an assumption on your part that a contract alone is sufficient to guarantee profits?

Isn't that an assumption on your part that RPH and CSHD are law-abiding?

 

No it's not an assumption. I think it's more like common sense and policy. If they found out the company was fraud it would be common sense to protect the shareholders by not letting it trade and give the SEC receivership of the company like the SEC wanted but the judge denied. They would have liquidated the company. Like you said " that's how it works." It's called policy not assumptions.

The contracts aren't there to guarantee profits, but it's a guarantee for the company to use those bonds to fund their JVS to make profits. GEE this is business right? wouldn't the JVs have provided a business plan to make profit? Before the bonds are even issued to RUFUS and CSHD they'd have to have a business plan right? what idiot would just give away 500 million or 3 bil to someone without a business plan? WELL those business plans are on www.gsccca.org. take the time to read them then you can understand the whole business model of CSHD.

Is it an assumption that RPH and CSHD are law-abiding? No it's not an assumption, it's fact that they are law-abiding duh or else they'd be in jail. remember discovery is over. common man i know you can do better than that.

 

well Rufus' interview just finished on subpenny radio. imma sleep. i hope you have better questions later today.

 

Well, I have a couple of questions for you. Yin already beat me to a few of them. Geez, you boys have been busy overnight.

Firstly, Mr. Alpine, concerning Darth's offer to meet you in San Luis Obispo. Yeah, a 2-hour drive is perhaps inconvenient for you, but when you consider all the time you waste on this thread arguing with people over and over.....it's not THAT much of an inconvenience, is it? I think that by meeting Darth, you're effectively meeting with all of us who have followed this thread. He has our respect, and he can certainly speak for me, and most likely everyone else here.

Secondly, Noah and a couple of others asked you why you were even on this thread, to which your reply was something like 'it's the internet, we can go anywhere we like', or words to that effect, anyway. So why then do you rag on Bernie or anyone else who is not from SoCal? Presumably that will include me, once you find out where I live. This is hypocritical in the extreme of you. You keep saying 'Don't Hate'. Well, please don't.

Oh yeah........the fact that it's trading OTC does not mean the company is legitimate, or that no fraud is involved. Just like the fact that a company's stock is part of the DJIA doesn't mean that DJ thinks it's a good investment (I've heard that one before, too).

Back to the fun,


Neil

 

Can I call a buddy by the name of BS ?

 

First of all I don't have a problem meeting any of you THAT IS LOCAL TO ME. yea a two hour drive is farfetched considering i don't know who the hell i'm meeting an dif he's even going to be there. Now there are plenty of you that live in the oc and that guy probably lives here also so why the f would i want to meet him 2 hours away? i even said i'll meet him at his house or he can come to mine. plain and simple. also the time that i argue on this thread is usually the time that i'm trading stocks or when i'm listening to subpennyradio.

i'm not hypocritical. my original answer to why i'm on this thread was because it was about the stock market. now i've given out constructive material to talk about while most of you guys just come here to criticize or bash me. Like i said i can talk about other things and make it constructive if you guys stop the bashing and start acting mature. i doubt that will happen on your part though.

Do you not know what the concept of an SEC suspension is? THE FACT THAT IT HAS GONE THROUGH DISCOVERY UNDER SCRUTINY BY THE SEC AND A FEDERAL JUDGE AND IS STILL TRADING IS FACT THAT IT'S LEGITIMATE!!! THERE WAS NO FRAUD FOUND AFTER THE INVESTIGATION! WHAT DON'T YOU GET ABOUT THAT???

 

NEWSFLASH! No one else is offering! You want to prove your point? Make the effort or stop trying.

 

My point was already made. The stock isn't fraud or pump and dump like you guys claimed. Whether or not you believe that i own that much shares on my account is your choice to believe in also although i've provided a pic of my account. Like i said i will meet anyone locally. You probably live around here anyway. why wouldn't your friends that are local not offer to prove what i've been saying when i'm the defendant and you guys are the plaintiffs? lol you guys are supposed to disprove what i've been saying.

I don't even need to make the effort because telling the truth and coming up with facts is so easy compared to you guys trying to twist with what i've been saying. I think i've already made my biggest point which is THE STOCK IS LEGIT AND YOU GUYS STILL WON'T ACCEPT THAT EVEN THOUGH A FEDERAL JUDGE HAS!!!

 

NO. Your point was not already made. The company is not at issue for it is there for all to see. The issue is YOU! YOU are the fraud until YOU prove otherwise!