333SP for sale

They've had it for sale for some time. I haven't seen that specific car, but I'm sure several of the South FL guys have. FofCF has a couple 333SP's around pretty regularly...

Unfortunately, the purchase price (which is substantial) is the easy part for these beauties... operating costs are "quite high".

 

I love those but at (pretty much) the same entry cost, I think the 575 GTC is the one.

 

Lets just say that car has quite an interesting history. The only miles on it are from factory testing. Otherwise I can tell you ths much I have driven that car more than anyone else not by the power of the engine but by people pushing me. I am one of the few people small enough to fit in it.

And yes it is 41 of 40

 

Jason - I assume there is room for a pedal adjustment to accommodate tall drivers? Thanks, Will

I believe Symbolic has a yellow car for sale.

 

How much would one cost per year with say , 5 track days ( 1500 miles ? )

 

I'm sure there will be more accurate estimates than mine,...

But figure purchase price between $800K to 1.1M depending on which car, and spares package, which may up the price even more...

I think each track day would run a minimum of $20K, with cost associated ith prepping the car (adjust ride height/suspension for track... can exchange gears based on track...), "routine maintenance" and the tech support required. So approx $100K for 5 days would be my estimate.

prob is that my estimate doen't include the engine/gearbox re-builds...

 

Lots, Andrew, lots.

Seriously, the per day cost of running the car isn't terrible. So, a 3-day weekend is probably no more than a challenge weekend. Perhaps in the $10-20K range (including trailering, support and consumables). It's hard to run this car on a budget as you will need support. The prep and post-race inspection and maintenance require several hours, so figure in the $500 - $1K additional. The big costs are in the engine rebuilds (rumored to be very expensive and require shipping the engine), although I think there may be ways around that. However, costs get astronomical if and when there's an off-track. While parts are being manufactured and inventoried for 333s, they aren't cheap. Body work is all carbon, obviously, so it's probably less expensive to replace. I don't have the list price of a sidepod, rear deck lid or crawford wing, but they're not inexpensive, either. Moreover, the electronics require changing of a battery once every couple of years, which means the whole dash assembly must be shipped to Michelotto (I've heard $15K for that service alone).

Building up a spares package for the Shelton car would be expensive, too. Same for the Symbolic car. Neither has spares. Motors are probably north of $100K, still.

In short, big numbers.

CW

 

how high is high? compared to an Enzo?


does it need an engine out fullservice after each track day? that would get expensive?

 

LOL get ready for $30k for a clutch & $40k for a drive shaft & $80k for brakes

No thanks

 

Ouch I can run my 512TR racer 50 days for $100k

Pretty soon she'll be as fast as a 575 GTC

 

Engine rebuild every 24 hours if run hard costs about 125K less shipping back to the homeland...

Best

 

I drove my MK-IV 25K miles on the same clutch which we inspected and put back. It did need two new throwout bearings. Cost about $40. 25K engine rebuild including dyno test was about 10K.

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To Napolis' point, several owners are shifting at lower rev limits to prolong the life of the motor. However, I know of at least one motor that had virtually ALL the development time on it. While it was tired, it was probably 90% and would run all day. But, 24 hours is the recommended cycle time.

If you're racing, well, that's another thing altogether.

CW

 

All true.

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Also, consider the cost of upgrades. The Symbolic car is an older model and as a result does not have many of the aero or mechanical upgrades. The Shelton car is newer and has most, if not all, of them. In the long run, the car will be cheaper to acquire.

There will not likely be costs of upgrading beyond this, though, as 333s were built to go the distance from the ground-up. So, it's unlikely that you'll see much in the way of new components going on the cars over time.

Brakes are one place where you might consider downgrading to steel if the car has carbon. Better feel, as usual, and much longer lasting. MUCH less expensive.

CW

 

Sounds like fantastic engineering.

 

Agreed, CCarlisi.

However, that's Magnetti Marelli for you!

CW

 

a more realistic (and maintainable) option:

http://www.capristo.be/racing/index.asp

a sports prototype (looks like a 333sp to me) with a 355 chanllenge engine/gearbox.

or you can always buy the 'beurly's F40 barchetta"

offcourse these don't have the heritage or presence of a 333

 

hey I got a pic some where of me sitting in that same car 2 years ago....