Well we do agree that all Ferraris are now Fiats.
FIAT cast all the blocks/heads, etc. For the 206 the motors were assembled by FIAT and shipped to Ferrari for the 206. For the 246, FIAT cast the parts and shipped the parts to Ferrari who assembled the motor and then either shipped it back to FIAT for the Dino or at the end since Ferrari did the assembly of the FIAT put them in the car. This comes out of the book "FIAT Dino, A Ferrari by another name". Yes both Ferrari 206 and 246 motors were cast by FIAT, only the 206 was assembled by FIAT
Franklin. All 246 motors were assembled by Ferrari, blocks were cast by Fiat, rest was done at Ferrari. The balance of the work on the car was done by Ferrari. And all of the work, blocks included, was supervised by Ferrari. And, they are as expensive to own as Ferraris because they are Ferraris. Sold originally at Ferrari Dealers, they have internal badges that say "Ferrari" on them, including the Mfg. Plate, and a couple of other identifiers in the engine compartment. Ferrari was building a car to compete with the Porsche for price and performance. He did not want it to detract from his primary line of V12 cars, so he made a decision to call it "almost a Ferrari" in the brochures. But it was built by Ferrari, sold by Ferrari, and to this day serviced by Ferrari mechanics, not Dino mechanics. It was not a distinct line, although that may have been his original intention. It's not a Pontiac by GM, it's a Dino by Ferrari. Not a Dino by Fiat, that's a separate car. And yes, Masers are now sold by Ferrari, but they do not have Ferrari badges on them, even though they share internal components with Ferraris. they are Maseratis, not Ferraris. My local Ferrari dealer also used to sell Alfas, but that's not a Ferrari either. Oh, and Fiat does make some of the parts for the motor, which are interchangeable with the Ferrari parts. Image Unavailable, Please Login
That was the 308 GTB buck. The recess for the Dino badge is clearly visible. I feel the same as Spasso. The 246 lines are magnificent. Image Unavailable, Please Login
The car looks better without the Ferrari identifiers and if I ever doubt what it is I can look at the title. Do any states title the car as a Dino?
all my titles are for ferrari's - or what ever the state abbreviation is for that. as for badges, a rear mounted ferrari word badge placed on the upper lid of the trunk badge doesn't look bad, even though i would never put one there, but the horse badges are typically installed so badly that they look bad and make the trunk "hardware" look unbalanced.
I have to say Dino badge. Or ferrari badge, but I don't think the horse looks right on that car. I think it looks cleaner with the simple Dino, or Ferrari badges.
You can do this at home really cheap. 20 years ago I took 2 Firebird and 1 Pontiac emblems (off a 68), took the emblems apart, spelled Ferrari. I then contact glued them to the decklid of my Kelmark GT which was an identical (ha!) replica of the Dino. I then took a keychain which said Ferrari and had the prancing horse and glued it to the front. It actually came out better than it sounds like, Enzo (or VW) would have been proud!
Dinos death at age 24 devastated his father. Enzo mourned him and visited his grave everyday. In Ferraris office, seen here in this 1965 photo by the great Julius Weitmann, the only ornament is a picture of Dino, there on that far wall. Did Enzo not want his name associated with the six-cylinder engines he said his son helped design? Or did he simply want to ensure that his dead sons name would live forever on these lovely cars, without the distraction of a Ferrari badge? Image Unavailable, Please Login
Hi Freeman, I have gotten as far as what you mention, but cannot find the Ferrari Heritage Certificate section. Where is the link to access that feature? Thank you. Regards, Alberto
Alberto, The Ferrari Heritage Certificate used to be free on the Ferrari Owner's site and would issue you a "Heritage Certificate" if all your numbers were confirmed original, then they no longer offered this free service. One day it just dissapeared! They replaced the free service with a "Certificate of Colour" which just gave you your original colour combo. Now all they do is give you your colours in your personal area on the Ferrari site. Now of course they charge for certification which is an expensive lengthy process. In the future, if you have a beautiful restored matching numbers Dino this could be a valuable document to enhance the value. We are really fortunate to have Matthias because through him you get much more valuable information because he is a passionate Dino enthusiast and researcher like no other. If I were Ferrari, I would hire Matthias and create a dedicated Dino resource. Freeman
Ferrari has an amazing brand with Dino. Us as enthusiasts are the foundation of that brand. For Ferrari to create more value out of "Dino" they need to start now! The Dino community is small and passionate. Ferrari has the opportunity to create a future new Dino that respects and halos all of the Dino history. In some ways "Dino" is more relevent today than Ferrari in the perception that it is lighter, smaller and more efficient than its bigger brothers. Imagine the "Dino" boutique! Dino has more cool facter than Ferrari. It just feels right! In many companies there are brand managers who's job is to grow and nurture the brand. Imagine if Matthias were that person! Freeman
Not very nice.... I enquired about Classiche for my Dino and was told that I would have to send Dino to Panama. Absurd. There is a Ferrari dealer there as much as here...I would not send it even if they paid the ticket! The 'expert' in Panama is just as much an expert as the one here. I am certain neither would know anything about Dino, unless of course, they had Matthias's book. Thank you for the knowledge Freeman Regards, Alberto
Can you show any evidence that a Dino ever left the factory with a Ferrari script attached? I think the chassis plate is totally irrelevant: It had a prancing horse only in the US, for obscure and local legal reasons. My Italian Dino has no prancing horse anywhere, and it never will.
I never put the Ferrari badge or logos on my car. Remember: A Dino is NOT a Ferrari. It's better. Without the Dino to lead the way, every car from the 308 to the 458 would have never happened. That's how good it was.
Not to mention rarity. How many Dinos in the world? Around 4000 206/246? Add, what a couple of thousand 308GT4s maybe? A smattering of race cars. So maybe ~6500 total. How many Ferraris built?
Which brings me to the following question... Who legally owns the brand "DINO"? Is it Ferrari , is it Fiat (who owns Ferrari)?? What if Fiat one bright day likes to do a "retrostyle" Fiat Dino??
