So why 6.0 over Murci?

With Diablo 6.0 prices surging and Murci prices dropping other than the obvious economic implications - which would you opt for and why? One can buy a 2002 Murci for less than a 6.0 in todays market and expect their investment to hold strong. Come on Murci guys, what say you??

 

I would love to hear some thoughts on this question too, because I'm thinking about buying a 2002 Murcie. My one question is how realiable and what kind of maintenance cost are behind the early model Murciealago's?

 

As an investment... go with the 6.0; as a driver... go with either

 

The 6.0 is one of the sexiest cars in the world, a Lamborghini that will always soar above the rest IMO. Everything about it just oozes OGLE ME AND RIDE ME ALL DAY LONG!

I wouldnt even be interested in a Murcielago if there were both models sitting in front of me. personal taste but I would have thought thats the opinion of many.

How can i say it, The 6.0 is like an F50 of Ferraris (although i know its not), the Murcielago is like a plain old 575 or something. Theres attractive and then theres fcuking incredibly sexy!

 

Yes, I would love to here from owners on this subject as well.

I've gathered some information that I'll list below, but I would ask experienced owners to verify its accuracy (it’s all second hand information).

So, this is what I've turned up so far regarding the 02 vs. 03 Murcielago:

The 02 - it had 4 champagnes that involved several areas such as the clutch and ECU mapping system, the 02's used Diablo technology (somewhat problematic) that were replaced in 03. Also, all but the last few cars off the line were Kilometer cars (the last few went to MPH). Be sure all the champagnes have been addressed (proof via documentation is best) or you could end up spending a small fortune bringing it up to snuff.

The 03 - basically I've been told that almost all the bugs in the 02 version were worked out in the 03 model, so it should be considered very reliable and a dependable driver.

Most people I've talked to say it's worth the extra 20k (or so) to move up to the 03. However, there were some know throttle body issues with this car that were addressed in the 04 model.

I was also told all these cars have inherent oil leak problems but this isn't a big deal. However, the good news is the engines are considered to be bullet proof (chain driven vs belt).

About $6500.00 for a clutch replacement and about $8500.00 for a 15k service, so be sure the car was kept up from a maintenance point of view; and do the same yourself or you'll pay dearly

Again, this information is second hand so if it’s incorrect or anyone can add to it I would very much appreciate it.

 

Sounds like the Gallardo is a much cheaper road on maintenance vs. the Murcielago! I own a 360 now and know how expensive it can be to have them serviced. Thanks for your input.

 

BOTH ARE GREAT CARS

 

Much as I love Diablo's I have owned my Murcielago from brand new and have done 42000 miles in it from new. (Sept 2004). Its been hammered around a track doing hot laps 3 days a month for 2 years and covered 7000 miles on the track itself. It had a clutch at 27000 miles and a second clutch (being done right now) at 42000 miles. Its been driven through 9 countries including torrential rain, snow etc etc. Its only ever let me down once on the track when debris got into the auxillary belt and threw it off. It annoys me when people slag Murcielago's. Show me a Porsche that could take this amount of stick and come back for more? Yep its had a few issues. Throttle bodies - its had 3. Couple of minor electrical issues including door locks etc but nothing thats stopped it coming out on a morning. Its been a fantastic car - only thing is I can't really afford to sell it cos of the huge depreciation so its keeping the LP640 company when that comes in March. If you want to read some reports then its all documented in Evo magazine (www.evo.co.uk). Go to long term tests. Sorry don't mean to plug the mag but its genuinely interesting for people to read who are in the market for one..

 

I saw your reviews and really enjoyed reading them. Actually, you're one of the reasons why I'm leaning toward the Murcie, thanks so much for taking the time to write them.

 

Thanks, I've enjoyed doing them. I don't think it'll be in Evo too much longer though! People must be sick to death of it by now

Link to reviews is
www.evo.co.uk/carreviews/evolongtermtests/archieve/4/

 

Sorry, that link doesnt work - try it manually. Cheers!

 

As drivers go, both are excellent cars. Both are very stable at high speeds, are reletivley easy to drive and are fast enough to keep up with or beat most exotics in their price range. The real difference is in the styling and the numbers produced. The 6.0 is a much more dramatic and passion fuled design than the Murcie. It has a very tactile feeling while the Murcie tends to show its much more German influence. We are at an interesting crossroads with styling because most manufactuers are favoring performance and bodies designed in the wind tunnel over looks and design form. We might never see cars with the outrageous looks of the Diablo, Ferrari F50, Miura etc. again. I beleive this combined with the fact lamborghini is making so many cars, that the older cars, with limited numbers, are rising in price. You see plenty of Murcie's and Gallardo's around and not very many 6.0's.

 

Marcello Gandini designed the Miura, Countach and the Diablo. I think that the Diablo signals the end of an era, highlighted by these icons as brought to life by that design genius.
For that reason, seminal variants of each of the above-mentioned models are and will become immensely collectible (and therefore valuable).
The Miura SV has already become a benchmark collectible (that ranks alongside genuine Ferrari classics), the Countach LP400 is becoming so, and watch out for that Diablo SE30... interestingly all three of the aforementioned models have a common production quantity: 150 (approximately) cars made in each in instance.

Murci or Diablo 6.0? Depends what floats your boat....old school Golden Era, or new generation.

Joe
www.lamborghiniregistry.com

 

whart can probably elaborate a bit on this, as I vaguely remember him considering a murci over the 6.0, before deciding on the 6. not a bad decision at all, considering the increasing scarcity (and rising prices) of the 6.0s

 

The Diablo is better on gas!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

I had owned over a dozen Diablos, prior to getting a new '04 Murci. The Murci was easier to drive...better engineered...faster...better handling. Even let the GF drive the Murci, that's how driver friendly it was. Kept it 8 months...700 miles. It mostly sat while I drove the 6.0. The 6.0 is the pinnacle of Diablo design and performance. The Murci is a truly great car....it just ain't a 6.0.

All that being said...I much prefer the SV to the 6.0, because of the RWD only and lighter weight.

 

I'd defo agree with that. I think the 6 litre is much more agressive and takes more out of you..I'd be the first to admit I couldnt have done 40,000 miles plus in a Diablo in 2 years. Having said that I doubt the Diablo could either

 

lol. I don't disagree!! My Murci was the same color as yours by the way. GREAT COLOR!!!

 

I faced the question of a prisitine 6.0 or a slightly dirty repo'd 04 Murci for similar money, a couple years ago. I bought the 6.0 because:

it had character that the Murcie seemed to lack;

the incremental differences in performance were less interesting to me than the overall experience of the car- to me, the Murcie was more like a later Porsche compared to the earlier ones- surely a better performing car, and easier to drive, but less appealing from a tactile and aesthetic sense.

Now, I know there are people that find the Diablo to be somewhat outdated in appearance, and want the latest in performance - I think the Murcie is probably hands-down a better car and probably a more reliable one.

As to investments, forget it. Unless you bought a periscopa 5 or 10 years ago, or a Miura equally long ago, you ain't gonna make money on these cars, particularly if you drive them (as you should).

 

Whart:
Yet, the Diablo 6.0's are going up in value. How far, who's to know, but the 6.0's we're selling for $20,000$30,000 less 18k months ago. There were several titanium examples as I recall selling in the upper 160's in the midwest in mid-05. Look at this one at CatsExotics currently http://www.catsexotics.com/inventory-detail.php?key=313
I believe the up-swing may be an acute fluctuation but some have made money in the short term and perhaps, in the long term as well.

 

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Gershwin: Agreed. Just think going into the car with the motive of making money or 'preserving' one's investment (as you say, will 6.0 prices continue to rise?) is not the right mindset. I paid a premium for mine when I got it about two years ago, because of the condition and low mileage of the car- and I don't think I'd get hurt right now, getting out of it, but I don't look at the enjoyment of the car (I've put about 8,000 miles on it in pure recreational driving in two seasons) from the standpoint of whether it was a prudent financial investment.
But, the question is still a fair one in the sense of 'which car will hurt me less, financially.' Obviously, service and repair costs are going to play a role in that calculus as well.

 

Don't forget only 300 or so 6.0 were built
that makes them rare.

but on the other hand:
they feature many add ons such as NISSAN headlights

which in the long run might be underestimated like those add ons in the 25th Anniversario Countach

 

I think that's what it boils down to. Gershwin are you thinking of getting one??

 

how many svs were made?compare the drive from a sv and a 6.0 .imo i would geta 6.0 over a murci.murcis are easily found 6.0s and all diablo models are getting harder to find.