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Another Enzo destroyed in Nice, France.

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  1. LV Eric

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    the best way to set up a fire suppression system would like air bags, it would empty the bottle upon impact, the sensors would have to be set up like airbags in a way that only high velocity impact would trigger them, or the button. On my Diablo GTR's there is a button indide and outside on the front bonnet. having that inside/outside system like on the GTR's and an impact system all the bases would be covered. I realize that Richard Lossee's car didnt catch on fire but I dont think if I was in the car with him when he went airborne I would have to remembered to push the button, hence my reasoning for an impact system as well. That would be very hard to retro fit if not impossible. I hope Richard is well, he is a great guy.
     
  2. Admiral Thrawn

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    Glad someone finally mentioned this. The oligarchs are tope blokes...

    They bought up alot of Russia's industries at rock bottom prices with the help of the Yeltsin government during the privatisation of state assets in the early 90's.
     
  3. Valence

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    I agree that either an inertial or heat activated system needs to be developed if it hasn't already. One of the 348 guys on here has a heat activated system that seems like a good interim solution. It's a boat system.

    Jim, I'm going to give SPA a call.
     
  4. darth550

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    #79 darth550, Nov 26, 2006
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  5. Remy Zero

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    it was being driven in the rain, if i'm not wrong, by a very expericed mechanic. as he picked up speed, the car suddenly swerved and crash into some palm trees.

    both survived, but the car's total lost. last i heard, it was in Italy for repairs.


    edit : someone mentioned about an Enzo crash in Malaysia? pls highlight this to me. AFAIK, there's no Enzo crash.

    the last Fcar to crash and total loss was last year, around June-July. F355. crashed into a tree, both father and young son burnt to death.
     
  6. Jompen

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    What are you talking about ? Only in Sweden 2 ferraris were totally destroyed this summer.
     
  7. SFchallenge

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    Remy was talking about the F40 crash few years ago in Malaysia & it was the owner who drove. It lost control in wet weather & could be due to the tyres. The mechanic is an fchatter here, both survived & if I'm not wrong the car body was sent back to Italy for a rebuild & not done till date.

    It's really sad to see anyone crash & burnt.

    Now, I'm thinking seriously about fire supression system in my old cars.
     
  8. JamesSimpson

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    now you and your internet friends can laugh about how you "carded" someone! you are the coolest.
     
  9. Retro11s

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    Suleiman Kerimov Badly Injured in Car Wreck

    Suleiman Kerimov, the Russian businessman listed by Forbes as the 72nd richest person in the world, was seriously injured on Saturday in an automobile accident in Nice, France. He lost control of his Ferrari Enzo, which struck a tree at an enormous speed and burst into flames, as he was traveling from the local airport toward the city center. Kerimov was taken by helicopter to the regional burn center at Hopital de la Conception in Marseille. He is now on artificial respiration.
    The accident occurred at about 3:30 p.m. on a stretch of the Promenade des Anglais where the speed limit is 50 km./h. Kerimov himself was behind the wheel and moving significantly faster then the speed limit when the black Ferrari unexpectedly crossed the sidewalk and struck a tree.

    Kerimov and his passenger were pulled from the burning car by passersby, who also tried to extinguish the flames using clothing and rugs. It took fire brigades from the Nice airport to dowse the flames, however. The accident caused a two-hour traffic jam on the busy highway.

    Police and an emergency helicopter appeared on the scene within moments. The helicopter took the seriously injured Kerimov to the burn center in Marseille. The female passenger in the car, who was less seriously inured, was taken to Saint Roch Hospital in Nice. A spokesman at the Russian consulate in Marseille, which also serves the Riviera, told Kommersant that they were maintaining “control” over the situation and that official information would be available on Monday.

    A spokesman for the Nice police commissariat, Kommersant was told that the judicial police investigate road transport incidents. He refused to comment on the speed at which the Ferrari was traveling or to give the name of Kerimov's passenger. At the Maritime Alps Department police prefecture, they acknowledged that Kerimov may have been the victim of his own carelessness. “The accident may have occurred because the driver lost control,” a spokesman said.

    At the Marseille hospital center, which unites four hospitals, including Conception, where Kerimov is being cared for, Kommersant was told that Kerimov's family had requested that information on his condition not be made public. It became known that evening, however, that Kerimov had received numerous burns and a head injury and that his condition was worsening. Doctors were forced to place him on artificial respiration. At Saint Roche Hospital, they stated that the name of the passenger in the Ferrari is unknown because she was admitted “with no name indicated.” Doctors declined to specify the nature of her injuries.

    Kamilla Spence, vice president of BIN Bank, in which Kerimov hold almost 20 percent of the stock, told Kommersant that “at the present time, Mr. Kerimov is alive and doctors are controlling his condition.” She added that bank president Mikhail Shishkhanov has flown from the United States to Marseille. Many members of the Dagestani diaspora have flown from Moscow to France as well.

    Kerimov is a member of the Russian State Duma, deputy chairman of the Committee on Physical Fitness, Sports and Youth Affairs, and a member of the LDPR faction. LDPR leader Vladimir Zhirinovsky called the incident “a usual traffic accident” and said that Kerimov would receive “due attention.” “If it had been an explosion, you could think that it was something like murder… This is a usual traffic accident, a purely technical moment, chance, and nothing more,” Zhirinovsky said. He suggested that the cause of the accident was “objective.” “There may have been sun. Maybe he could have been putting on sunglasses and was poorly oriented. We have to wait for information from the French police about what really happened. Maybe the car was defective. We don't know anything,” he said.
    Nikolay
     
  10. poppy84

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    The S/N of Suleiman Kerimov 2003 Enzo is 128786, the car has a french number plate.

    I know it's crazy but burned remnants of 128786 are avaiable on e-bay less than 24 h after the crash in Nice. See the link below:

    http://cgi.ebay.fr/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=180056242570&ru=http%3A%2F%2Fsearch.ebay.fr%3A80%2Fsearch%2Fsearch.dll%3Fcgiurl%3Dhttp%253A%252F%252Fcgi.ebay.fr%252Fws%252F%26fkr%3D1%26from%3DR8%26satitle%3D180056242570%26category0%3D%26fvi%3D1


    Thanks to Mr. Marcel Massini for these informations.
     
  11. davem

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    If the Enzo is designed to seperate in two under extreme impacts are there any one way valves to shut fuel delivery as well?
     
  12. Tahoe Guy

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    I also agree that Ferrari needs to seriously address the issue of fires on their cars. There are instances of F cars catching on fire and they weren't involved in an accident. Granted Ferrari's are not all that rare (although the Enzo is not exactly common) but you don't hear this happening with the Porsche's and they are much more common. I'm sure it does happen on Porsche's but I haven't really heard of anything.
     
  13. Ermanno Claypool

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    This is incredible.
    Really.
     
  14. GTE

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    It would make sense to have the fuelsupply cut off in an event of any type of crash. One would assume the Enzo is equipped with such a safety measure, especially when the chassis is meant to split up between driver and engine.
     
  15. darth550

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    Better a friend than an enema, I always say........
     
  16. TMINUS

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    The guy is sitting in a hospital with severe head injuries and 3rd degree burns, after being engulfed in flames from his accident, and people are out EBay'ing scavenged, insignificant pieces of the wreckage.

    That's just ridiculous.
     
  17. darth550

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    Wait until the auction ends, then we'll see..... ;)
     
  18. ecurienationalebelge

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    Strange ... look carefully at the newspaper photo from the ebay auction then compare it to the one posted here above by a fellow Fchatter...
     
  19. nthfinity

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    "On the passenger seat was travelling famous russian tv star Tina Kandelaki. She suffered minor injuries and already left the hospital. "
     
  20. jsnazzy

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  21. Maranello Guy

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    Why he couldn't write it himself ... ?

    BTW
    I think that his attitude is wrong . . .

    P.S.
    Sorry for off topic thought . . .
     
  22. Remy Zero

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    thanx for pointing out Jon.

    another thing. what i actually explained, was all whats happened in Malaysia. liked i said, the last Ferrari crash in Malaysia was around june-july last year. father and young son died in a F355
     
  23. Remy Zero

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    i'm not sure if this is true, but according to french police, that guy just git the enzo on saturday. anyone can confirm this?
     
  24. ostkurve

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  25. DotHater

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    he was going more than 60 after seeing those pics i'm sure he was going 100(which is easy to do quickly in an Enzo), its hard to say how fast he was going and why he lost control on what looks like a normal street, it also looked like it was a straight road, so its not like he came into a turn a bit fast and lost it. One thing is certain he aint feeling to good, is he a Mafia guy?
     

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