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Dino destoyed near Naples FL

Discussion in '206/246' started by WILLIAM H, Nov 28, 2006.

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  1. zjpj

    zjpj F1 Veteran

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    I drive quickly. (Of course I also have a license with no points on it, but that's not the point.) Come on, everyone in a Ferrari has gone over 70 in a 65. The thing that I basically never do is weave in and out. This is what causes stuff like what happened here - someone pulling out in front of you. People aren't expecting others to be driving fast on the highway, so if you are suddenly in a lane and they didn't see you when they looked a few seconds ago, they are going to change in to that lane and bam! you smack into them. That is why I believe look, if you have to go faster than 65, do it in the fast lane when the people in front of you get over. Don't do it when you're weaving in and out of traffic, overtaking on the inside, or other such things. That's the really foolish and dangerous thing that IMO should really be avoided.
     
  2. absent

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    You get a written warning that looks like your typical junk mail,so very often people just miss it.
    Then you get suspension about which you find out next time you get pulled over.
     
  3. absent

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    On Rt 41 in Naples ,driving without frequent lane changes is impossible unless you agree to drive 20mph below the limit.
     
  4. MWHC4S

    MWHC4S Karting

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    How much was this car worth before the accident?
     
  5. zjpj

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    Then you drive 20mph below the limt. I've gone below the speed limit in my Ferrari in traffic. Weaving at speed is what 20-year-olds in souped up Civics do.
    I'm not saying you have to go 65 at all times. I can't imagine any Ferrari owner doing that. I've gone 175 with not another single car on the road. If you're going to go fast, pick your time, and do it when you're not going to be a danger to other people on the road.

    In FL is overtaking on the inside illegal? It is here.
     
  6. RP

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    I guess some of us have never exceeded the speed limit even slightly, and that some of us have never experienced a car pulling out in front of us with little time to react.

    Not being there to witness this accident I have no idea what really happened, other than a friend was injured. The rest is just guessing and secondary to his health.
     
  7. hhh

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    I totally agree with Absent in post #59.
    A 23 year old driving a Honda doesn't even know what 100 mph looks like.
    If you pass a girl like her in anything black and American it looks half the speed of a yellow Dino.

    Having a suspended license has noting to do with guilt here; the lady in the SUV (like so many probably juggling shopping bags that are falling over, talking on the phone, or keeping kids in line) just never looked!

    Pity about the lovely Dino (I have the same in red); hope he gets it rebuild.

    I guess I am one of the few on this Forum who admits to speeding (braking the law to some of you priests....)
     
  8. LetsJet

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    Not going to get it done......


    MD
     
  9. 134282

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    For those of you who actually care about Zannos' condition, he is, relatively, okay. There was/is, so far as we know, no internal trauma.

    Not that it's anyone's business, but in the hopes of quelling some of this inanity, Zannos' license was suspended because he was one day late paying a ticket. Most of us know from personal experience that the DMV is a huge pain in the balls with stuff like that.

    It should also be noted that Zannos was not going 100mph as a witness in the aforementioned article suggests.

    While some of you perpetuate the prevarications from the internet article posted earlier in the thread, Zannos will be having surgery this evening on his facial fractures.
     
  10. BigTex

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    Thanks for that, Carbon...

    We'll be thinking positive thoughts his way.......
     
  11. neilmac

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    Thanks, Carbon, for posting the update. I don't know the man involved, but I pray for his complete recovery.

    IMO, we should all just take a deep breath here. We don't know all the facts yet, so let's not rush to judgment. Witnesses are notoriously inaccurate, as are the media. Early reports are sketchy at best.

    I'm confused by those posting about the 23-year-old girl......every one mentions the fact that she was driving a Honda. What blessed difference does that make? It's almost as though she can't be a reliable witness because of the brand of car she drives. I don't get it.

    Keep the rhetoric in check for a while, please.

    /endrant

    Neil
     
  12. LetsJet

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    Thanks for the update.........

    whoever can get a message to him, make sure he knows that there are well wishers on the board here giving him support.
     
  13. Jerrari

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    Save your breath Carbon, there will still be those that want him to hang from the nearest tree. Before anyone knew the facts, they were ready to insert their own facts. Assumptions made:
    1) The witnesses were credible
    2) The witnesses know what 100 mph looks like
    3) He KNEW that his license was revoked and drove anyway
    4) He was swerving in and out of traffic like a madman
    Besides this, he MAY have been on his way to the hospital to save someone's life. Now that is speculation on my part but the fact is WE DON'T KNOW!!
     
  14. Stackhouse

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    Best wishes for a quick recovery!!!
     
  15. flyingboa

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    I only hope that he gets ok. As far as the accident dynamic is concerned, I learnt out of experience that all the initial FACTS reported in the papers usually have nothing to do with the truth. It is better to wait and see what really happened before writing anything you could well regret later.
    Ciao
    Eugenio
     
  16. Ferrari 1

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    Maybe some of you should remove the "log" from your eye, before worrying about the "speck" in someone else's.
     
  17. dm_n_stuff

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    Glad to hear he's doing ok. Let's all hope he heals quickly.

    Carbon, you of all people should understand the importance of having a proper driver's license, legal in all states :D
     
  18. Birdman

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    I for one am NOT happy about the article mentioning that it was a "Ferrari Dino" 12 times. Why? Because they are using it as a means to bias the reader to incriminate the "evil" Ferrari driver. My first impression reading the newspaper article was that it was heavily biased against the Dino driver and designed from the start to make the reader find him responsible for the accident.

    Few newspaper reporters ever get anything right, few newspapers ever report news without biasing it towards which ever "position" they feel is "right." IMHO you are all taking the "facts" presented in the article far too literally. When I read the article I got this:

    "Today an irresponsible man in a fast Ferrari with a suspended license was blowing down the road at 100 MPH or so and some poor victim turned onto the road and he crashed into her." Honestly, isn't that what it implies?

    So it turns out that the guy is a doctor, may have been driving only a small amount over the speed limit (lets not throw stones, we all live in this glass house) and his license was only "suspended" for a late parking ticket. And meanwhile, a careless driver that pulled out in front of him without looking is an innocent victim. PLEASE.

    The Dino driver may turn out to have been doing something wrong, but to decide that based on a NEWSPAPER article is like deciding which Ferrari to buy based on reading up at Porsche chat.

    I have on several occasions almost hit someone in my 308, going at or below the speed limit, simply because people do not see it. The car is tiny. At dusk for example, I run with the high beams on just so people will notice the car and not cut me off. The Dino is probably the same way. Anyone who rides a motorcycle can tell you how many times a person pulls up to an intersection, looks right through you like you aren't even there, and pulls out right in front of you. People just do not look. And when they do, they look for a big car or a truck. They seem to look right past tiny sportscars and motorcycles like they aren't even there.

    The fault here lies with the person who pulled out right in front of him, until a judge decides differently. The length of the skid marks, and the number of times he changed lanes are irrelevent IMO. People are so quick to blame the guy in the Ferrari, the media makes me sick. You people all fell for it.

    Birdman
     
  19. zjpj

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    Great post Birdman
     
  20. dozzina

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    A 308 looks like it is going 100mph when it is parked. I'm not around Dinos enough to know what the visual offset speed is for that model. ;)
     
  21. BigTex

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    Birdman has it right...as I first posted, the good Doc in the main lanes has the Right of Way......

    I wish he'd been driving a Supertanker and plowed on thru!

    I liked the description of driving with all the retirees too!
    It's like that on Galveston Island......
     
  22. rcallahan

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    1) I hope everyone makes a full and speedy recovery.
    2) I hope the Dino can be restored.
    3) The 23 year old girl, does anyone have any photos...is she hot?
     
  23. Auraraptor

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    Well said
     
  24. absent

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    Thanks for the update and additional info (his "criminally reckless" suspended licence, which caused the accident in some posters minds)
    I sincerely hope some of these posters are feeling a little bit more stupid now...
     
  25. WILLIAM H

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    Been there 2 x in FL over petty krp, Yes it blo's

    & Yes, I think the "journalist" was setting Z up bcus he was driving a Ferrari

    We should all write to the paper about their bias against us
     

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