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The Offical P4/5 Mileage Thread

Discussion in '288GTO/F40/F50/Enzo/LaFerrari/F80' started by DotHater, Dec 2, 2006.

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  1. DotHater

    DotHater Karting

    Feb 16, 2005
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    Jim,

    You have had the car for several months, took it to France for high speed testing, taken it out on a few runs, and popped up at a track event. Which is great. I knew you were going to drive the car, but i'm sure others and myself are curious how many miles you have on her now? If its posted somewhere else I missed it, so I thought I would start a simple thread that we could easily see how much she is being driven. If you dont want to post it I'll delete this right away, but with your permission it would be interesting to see the mileage accumlate and according service history. We watched her from inception now its time to watch her grow up.

    cheers

    eric
     
  2. WILLIAM H

    WILLIAM H Three Time F1 World Champ

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    He'll have to sell it before 10,000 miles or it will lose a lot of value LOL

    Good thing he painted it resale red though :)
     
  3. Napolis

    Napolis Three Time F1 World Champ
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    She had about 800 miles of testing in Europe she now has about 1700 miles.

    I drove her today and will drive her again tomorrow. I'll drive her until they salt the roads.
     
  4. Michael RPM

    Michael RPM Formula Junior

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    Already more miles than most Enzos. Good work Mr. G!
     
  5. amenasce

    amenasce Three Time F1 World Champ
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    James,

    Who is going to service her ? Classic Coach ? WWC ? Miller ?
     
  6. FerrariF50lover

    FerrariF50lover Formula 3

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    This thread makes me wonder what the heck is your winter car?
     
  7. DotHater

    DotHater Karting

    Feb 16, 2005
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    Ahh whats a little salt???? ;) Seriously thank you for the update, if its not too much trouble can we keep this thread going it will be interesting as time passes as long as the integrity of it stays on topic the mileage/maintance on the P4/5. If its not too much trouble for you. Thanks again you actually drove it a bit more than i would have guessed both here and in France I would have guessed about half in each place. I have put just over 600 miles on mine in the past 5 months, the plain old run of the mill Enzo-not the fancy jazzed up version ;) . I suppose if I had the fancy one I would drive it a bit more too. :)

    cheers
     
  8. Maranello Guy

    Maranello Guy F1 Rookie

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    #8 Maranello Guy, Dec 2, 2006
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    As far as I know Jim ordered "P4/5 winter option" ;)
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  9. fiorano94

    fiorano94 F1 Veteran

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    hahahah!, my guess would be his Maser Coupe or his wifes Porsche Cayyene
     
  10. zjpj

    zjpj F1 Veteran

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    Sal @ Scuderia Glickenhaus, I would think
     
  11. 134282

    134282 Four Time F1 World Champ
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    Can't he just plug the computer into the dash so it will perform some sort of self-sustaining maintenance on itself...?
     
  12. Napolis

    Napolis Three Time F1 World Champ
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    Hey

    Pininfarina went to great lengths to make the car simple and serviceable.
    We'll do most of the servicing ourselves but WWOC/FOLI/Miller are all friends should we need to use a computer. Pininfarina and Ferrari are also standing by and for anything really major we'll fly her back to the homeland with Sal.

    Part of the program was making complete spares and service manuals so this isn't a big deal.

    As NNO noted the on board computers store the entire car in CAD Parts/construction/etc. and Ferrari and Pininfarina carry the entire car in their computers as well. You could drive her into any Ferrari dealer world wide and get her serviced without issue.

    For snow below 6 inches I take the Maser and if it gets deeper my wife's Cayenne gets us around.

    Best
     
  13. Seth

    Seth Formula 3

    Feb 8, 2004
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    wow! thats cool, how much space(memory wise) does that take up?? must be well over 1000's of pages of data??
     
  14. PAP 348

    PAP 348 Ten Time F1 World Champ
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    Nice to hear you are racking up the miles on it. :)
     
  15. Napolis

    Napolis Three Time F1 World Champ
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  16. Rev.ATARI

    Rev.ATARI Formula Junior

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    So money aside, what’s to stop a person from ordering all the parts to convert an Enzo to a P4/5?
     
  17. Napolis

    Napolis Three Time F1 World Champ
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    I own the intellectual property and both Ferrari/Pininfarina/ and I agree that
    Ferrari P 4/5 by Pininfarina will remain a one of one. All of this is simply to support my car period.
     
  18. Randy Forbes

    Randy Forbes Formula Junior

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    You've certainly earned the right; how fortunate for us all that you are as open and sharing with the project as you have been. I joined the forum here late, but my curiosity required that I read the entire thread(s) (not to mention the magizine articles ;) ).

    (Psst, is there a link to the Spyder Corsa's maintenance/restoration; I long to see the insides and details of that car?).
     
  19. LV Eric

    LV Eric Formula Junior

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    I was going to tell you this next time we talked in private but what the hell its Sunday, The way you managed to come up with this idea and insure the fact its 1of1 for ever and you own the intellectial property is genious, i know you are deep enough that you'll never sell the P4/5 like I am with some of my cars, but its nice knowing that not only you have a dream in the garage but the balance sheet looks better as a result. The way you positioned yourself strictly in a business sence on this project is as amazing as the car. I know the passion you have for cars is very strong as is mine and i;m not dilluting that, just complementing you on your astute bussiness skills as well. And I know it wasnt built with that in mind but it beats blowing a few mil on nothing; hats off to you.
     
  20. audihenry

    audihenry Formula Junior
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    LV:

    It's pretty obvious that an investor would most likely never invest in a liability. Look at his other cars: they will only appreciate in value and bring much more in return. Do you think the fight over the lost chassis was just a matter of honor? Or the authentication of any car deemed to be unique? It's all about big bucks. Why do some people buy Monets and things of that sort? Investments, not careless splurges.

    As a side note, it makes me wonder why so many people on this forum have so many brand new cars which cover almost the same territory? 99% of these cars will only decrease in value: they are liabilities. You see people with Murcies, 360s, Cayennes, M5s, etc., in the same garage. So few people have truly collectible cars. Sure, they bring pleasure to the owner and it's their money to do as their please, but some planning about the future should be considered, especially with such investments which can return handsomely later on.
     
  21. Townshend

    Townshend F1 Veteran
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    Aside from the IP, people looking to do a similar project should have their own design. While 2 P 4/5's would be great, I'd rather have 2 vastly different coachbuilt cars.
     
  22. Orbitz007

    Orbitz007 Karting

    Oct 4, 2004
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    Can someone please tell me what's the price tag on the P4/5 ?
     
  23. Randy Forbes

    Randy Forbes Formula Junior

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    All comments "in print" (i.e., magazines, etc.) alludes to $4-5M...

    ... those options can really add up!
     
  24. cntchds

    cntchds Formula 3

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    The price Jim paid is around 4 million USD from what magazines are saying. I have no idea what it would go for. If anyone sees me on Destination X next season, don't expect my guestimate of 8 million to be bible-truth. :D

    Peter Hatch
     
  25. Townshend

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    for that sort of money i'd build my own.
     

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