More Old Photos

0042M was displayed at the galleria ferrari - maranello nov.2005. the car is in very good condition - no need to restore it.

 

0026M was also painted blue when winning the 1950 Mille miglia with no. 724 !

 

Bertocchi:

Is that Gurney in the Brabham followed by Hill in the BRM? I can't
make out the third car, but maybe Surtee's in the Ferrari based
on his helmet.

Thanks!

Mark

P.S.: 1964 (?)

 

1963 British GP at Silverstone - yes, Gurney in the Brabham (retired) ahead of Graham Hill in a BRM P578 (wearing the orange noseband for the first time) and Surtees in a Ferrari 156/63.

Hill ran low on fuel on the last lap; Surtees had been up half the night helping the Ferrari mechanics make and fit a small extra fuel tank to go over his legs, so he passed Hill to take 2nd.


Paul M

 

Circuit des Remparts d'Angoulême.

Rare photographs with some F2 Ferraris

Here:

http://www.christian-claude.com/remparts/index.html

Raymond Sommer, José Froilan Gonzales, Bruno Sterzi, Rudolf "Rudi" Fischer, "Duddley Folland" aka Tim Davis.

We replaced dedicated photographs in the races context.

My regards.

 

Beautifull pics! Keep them coming!

Gr. Martin

 

Fantastic vintage pictures! But rather unfortunately placed watermarks.
Anybody has the serial number on this car?
http://www.christian-claude.com/remparts/pages/page_26.html
Best
Jurgen

 

Definately. This thread is the Ferrarichat treasure room.

 

I don't know the s/n for his 166 F2; but it's the same car for:

19 mars 1950 Grand Prix de Marseille 4e #6
10 avril 1950 Grand Prix de Pau 4e #6
16 avril 1950 Grand Prix de San Remo DNF #?
07 mai 1950 Grand Prix de l'Automobile Club du Nord - Roubaix - 1er #10
28 mai 1950 Circuit du Lac Aix les Bains 1er #16
04 juin 1950 Grand Prix de Berne 1er # 20 (may be it's a factory car 166 F2/50; entrant Scuderia Ferrari)
02 juillet 1950 Coupe des petites cylindrées Reims DNA #30


Raymond Sommer is dead 10 september 1950 in a small race for some friends in Cadours (France) with a racer: Cooper Jap T12 #40. Best time and pole position !

 

Beautiful pics. The one of Gonzalez by his car is fantastic. One of my heroes.

 

1967 Belgian GP? Amon (312/0003) finished 3rd.
Nathan

 

Yes, now we're getting down to my level of restoration work

Actually, I'm much better at the unseen areas of the car, though no lack of attention to detail on my part. www.rfdm.com/gallery

 

Exactly. These cars were functional, not just pretty toys.

Anyway subject has been done to death, and some just don't get the functional bit and how much better cars look when they AREA still race cars.
Pete

 

One of my favourite F1 Ferraris - thank you
Because they look like NART Stickers on the side - Bandini (312/0010) 1966 US GP - DNF?
Nathan

 

Yes, right car (now owned by Bernie Ecclestone and not seen for some years) and race. Denis Jenkinson in his report in 'Motor Sport' said the entry was by S.E.F.A.C. and not NART, so I wonder why it carried those stickers?


Paul M

 

Hi Paul
As we've said before - the owner and the entrant are not necessarily the same. Ferrari was having a difficult year - missed some races & only Bandini in USA - didn't even go to Mexico.
Maybe Chinetti supplied some needed $s, or perhaps he supplied some mechanics so the factory saved on the cost of sending their lads over.
Maybe Enzo felt it would be a good gesture that would benefit them both. Who knows?
Nathan

 

Even before the strikes Ferrari seemed to trim back for 1966. After running two or three works P2s in the 1965 races, they missed Daytona 1966, ran one car at Sebring, Monza and Spa, took two to the Nurburgring but only raced one (along with a couple of Dinos), and one P3 with three Dinos at the Targa Florio.

All three of the P3s built (0844, 0846 & 0848; 0850 bare chassis was a spare not completed until Daytona 1967 as a 412P for Swaters) were at Le Mans, but 0846 was entered and run by NART.

All the P2s were fitted with 365 single-OHC engines before being sold to the privateers......so presumably the 330 P2 engines went into the P3s with fuel-injection. The 275 P2 engines vanished - I'd love to know the engine serials, as I think they were short-stroked and put in the 1966 F1 cars to save money (Surtees' autobiography says this) with just the distributor drives changed.

They only produced 300bhp at first, so Surtees was beaten by Brabham at Silverstone, got up to about 330 bhp with new cams for Spa and were then uncompetitive without Surtees until they got the 36-valve heads and 360 bhp for Monza.

For 1967 they must have found some more money, as well as having fewer strikes, as they built up 0850 and 0854 and updated 0844 and 0848, as well as casting completely new engines and gearboxes for the P4s and the spaghetti-exhaust F1s.........unlike 1966 where the P3 'box was a (insufficiently) beefed-up F1, engines were recycled, and the importer teams just got new windscreens etc for their 365P2s.

Paul M

 

History tells us that Enzo Ferrari nearly negotiated the sale of his company to Ford in 1963 - a step that Ferrari would not have taken lightly. The Fiat rescue package did not arrive until 1969. So 1966/67 were right in the middle of this period. And it's funny how the more strapped for cash Ferrari was the more labour strikes there were in Italy. Coincidence?
Nathan