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Discussion in '456/550/575' started by garysp7, Dec 12, 2006.

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  1. garysp7

    garysp7 Formula Junior

    Mar 28, 2004
    436
    Florida
    Full Name:
    Gary
    I have a 2000 550 and I just had the dealer replace the alternator and place a new battery. I had the radio and fan/compressor fuse keep blowing and they said they found a frayed wire by the alternator that was most likely causing that.
    They said that many times when the fuse blows due to the compressor going bad. They said that it appears by compressor is leaking from the casing and it wet with what appears to be gear fluid. They stated that in the near future the clutch will prbably sieze up and I will need to replace the compressor. They do not rebuild them and they do not replace the clutch mechanism on the compressor. So now it is another 3K for that to have them do it. The compressor is a Nippon Denso Brand. I do not know the model number of it. Do any of you know this?
    My good friend who collects Ferraris has told me I am better off buying the compressor from anyone who sells it and then going to a good qualified air conditioning shop and having them replace it.
    Has anyone had any experience wiht this? Should I just pay them the 3K and be done with it or is it worth it if I can find a good shop and have them do the work.
    I love the car but hate the service bills that go with it. Lately, 2K tires, 1K shock actuator, 2K alternator and battery, and now 3K compressor.
    I am not complaining, only wondering if I am a sucker for having the dealer service the car all the time.
    Any ideas as well as what model Nippon Denso compressor is on my 2000 550?
    Thanks
    Gary
     
  2. bayareaferrari

    bayareaferrari Formula Junior

    Dec 19, 2004
    672
    California
    You are talking about the A/C compressor?

    If so, many times they leak and the seal can be replaced for $500-$700. Please confirm this is what you are talking about.
     
  3. garysp7

    garysp7 Formula Junior

    Mar 28, 2004
    436
    Florida
    Full Name:
    Gary
    Yes, They were referring to the A/C compressor. They said at some point the clutch would probably sieze up and I would need to replace the entire compressor.
    My best friend who has several F cars said he talked to a good A/C shop who works on all types of high end cars and they stated the first thing to do is inject die into the system and then use a UV light to see where any leaks are. They stated that if the car needs a new a/c comrpessor, which it uses a Nippon Denso, when they replace that, they also replace the Dryer, Accumulator and place new Freon along with the compressor. They quoted me $1500.00.
    Now my friend is calling Tim Stanfield to discuss the issue with him.
    I do want to fix it correctly but am tired of bending over every time the car needs work.
    What do you guys do?
     
  4. garysp7

    garysp7 Formula Junior

    Mar 28, 2004
    436
    Florida
    Full Name:
    Gary
    Yes, They were referring to the A/C compressor. They said at some point the clutch would probably sieze up and I would need to replace the entire compressor.
    My best friend who has several F cars said he talked to a good A/C shop who works on all types of high end cars and they stated the first thing to do is inject die into the system and then use a UV light to see where any leaks are. They stated that if the car needs a new a/c comrpessor, which it uses a Nippon Denso, when they replace that, they also replace the Dryer, Accumulator and place new Freon along with the compressor. They quoted me $1500.00.
    Now my friend is calling Tim Stanfield to discuss the issue with him.
    I do want to fix it correctly but am tired of bending over every time the car needs work.
    What do you guys do?
     
  5. bayareaferrari

    bayareaferrari Formula Junior

    Dec 19, 2004
    672
    California
    Gary,

    That sounds correct. I had to do the very same thing with mine however during the testing of the unit with die & UV we found that it was a seal in the front of the compressor and just replaced it for $650
     
  6. synchro

    synchro F1 Veteran

    Feb 14, 2005
    9,294
    CHNDLR
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    Scott


    Probably the same guy as Tim Stanford, but I know what you mean.

    The total price probably seems expensive, but those Nippondenso units can be very expensive; as a benchmark the Nippondenso alternators for Mondials come in at $1500.00 each:
    http://www.ferrarichat.com/forum/showpost.php?p=134563884&postcount=5
     
  7. garysp7

    garysp7 Formula Junior

    Mar 28, 2004
    436
    Florida
    Full Name:
    Gary
    Can you guys tell me how I can find the right model of Nippon Denso compressor for my car. Would Ferrari parts know or are they just going to tell me the Ferrari part number?
    Would a Nippon Denso compressor distributor know which model would be the correct one? I do not have the car at home now and if I could avoid taking the car apart to read a model number on the compressor that seems esaier to me.
    Hey, I don't mind the cost of the correct compressor and if it costs me 1500 to do it right, I do not mind. It is a whole lot less than 3k at the dealer as long as it is done right.
    Thanks again
    Gary
     
  8. thibaut

    thibaut Formula Junior

    Feb 28, 2004
    530
    London, UK
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    Thibaut A.
    I've had the same problem on mine.
    My indy specialist replaced it with a reconditionned item. Cost was about GBP 800 if I remember correctly.
    Based on my experience, given the list of items you changed, I think you've had issue with about everything that could break down - same here.
    Keep an eye on engine mounts and you may have another acutuator failing but otherwise I think you're in for trouble-less motoring !
     
  9. oss117

    oss117 F1 Rookie

    Jan 26, 2006
    4,185
    Plantation, Florida
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    Alfredo
    Gary, by all means, you do not need a Ferrari dealer to diagnose a a problem with the A/C.
    Much less you need a dealer to replace the compressor, if that is the case.
    I do not know where you live in Florida, but just find a reputable A/C shop and have your car checked out.
    I can recommend KEL air conditioning in Ft. Lauderdale for one.
    Good luck,
    Saluti,
     
  10. mid328

    mid328 Karting

    May 4, 2006
    195
    Glen burnie, Md
    Full Name:
    Sam
    We have a problem with the shaft seal slightly leaking on an 02 550 the a/c still opperates properly and has no problems other than slight shaft seal leak due to previous owner letting car sit . Does anyone know the part # and mfg of the seal ? or has had this problem,easy fix if you can get the seal
     
  11. oss117

    oss117 F1 Rookie

    Jan 26, 2006
    4,185
    Plantation, Florida
    Full Name:
    Alfredo
    A slight leak from the shaft seal is not unusual, if the compressor has not been running for some time, as the oil in the system tends to dry out and the seal becomes ineffective.
    However, if that is all there is, the next time it is in use, the seal is restored again.
    If the seal is worn out, it is a different matter and the replacement of the seal should be done by a specialized shop, equipped to recover the gas, etc. etc.
    Usually it is cheaper and / or faster to replace the compressor, rather than mess around with the seal.
    A.
     

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