Woohoo!! Found my ANSA!

way ta go!

 

Pics please

 

I like ANSA's I use them in all of my Lancias

 

I 'm happy you found one still in stock. Treat the ANSA well (ie. always bring your car up to temperature before you shut it down) and you will be rewarded with its fine sound and dependability for many years to come.

 

Aaron,
I would consider a hyperflow instead of dumping your cats.

1. Dumping your cats is technically illegal.
2. Your car will REEK of fumes without a cat.

My 308, being an old pre-cat carb car has very stinky exhaust. I consider it part of the charm, but my wife most certainly doesn't. The Mondial has cats and it's much more like a normal car, and a lot better when you want to go someplace dressed up and not smell like a mechanic when you get there. (No offense to the mechanics here! )

When the cats on the Mondial go, I will replace them with hyperflows, not remove them.

Just my $.02.

Birdman

 

Not true, B-man! If the car is tuned and running correctly, you can meet tailpipe targets for CO and HC without cats on the QV. No significant smell, actually less smell than the cats. As a matter of fact, pre-cat CO should be around .7-1.2%. I'll bet your carb car has over 500ppm HC, which is causing the stink.

-Peter (years of practice covering gutted and missing cats on F-cars, Alfas and every darn thing else, before I realized it was the engine management that was the limiting factor...<grin>)

 

I second that. We all love HP, but I think we all love to breathe clean air also. I've still got the cats on my '78.

 

I had to replace my messed up thermal reactor muffler with an Ansa. My 1976 GTB sounds better than before but the stock muffler sounded great as well.

 

Looks as if you were trying to bolt a non-cat Euro system onto a (I am assuming) USA spec car which came with cats?

If you can do this, I too will go and do the same.

Cheers - DM

 

I put an ANSA on my former '84 Mondial QV a couple of years back and absolutely loved the sound. Got a lot of complements about how good it sounded, and it fit nicely, looked great.

Only one problem -- the exhaust was fine on the street, but when I ran the car up at Lime Rock, the exhaust heated up sufficiently that the powder coating or whatever the heck they put on it started to cook. It turned into a white powder and was coming off and looked like smoke. I was in the middle of a great run, looked in the rear view mirror and thought I saw smoke coming from the engine vents. I pulled off the track, grabbed the fire extinguisher, hopped out of the car, threw the engine hood up, and no flames. After a bunch of head scratching and poking around, I discovered that it was just the coating on the exhaust that had burned off and was making it look like smoke was coming out. Once the stuff burned off sufficiently, no more "smoking" problem.

If you are just using the car on the street, you probably won't have this problem. But if you track the car, or if you take a long trip at highway speeds, you may notice something going on back there. Check the exhaust for flaking powder coating before you discharge your fire extinguisher into the engine bay.

 

Peter, no offense, but how can this be true? If this were true, no car manufacturers would have cats, just great engine management. I guess it depends on what your "target" is. In MA, a car without cats will NOT pass emissions, I don't care how lean you run it!

You are right that my carb 308 stinks because carbs cannot run as finely tuned as injection. What can I say, she runs better a tad rich!

But I can always tell a car that has no cats from the smell. Even cars that are running very well and tuned right (such as Verell's 308 and Rx7, and spider348's 348 with test pipes) always smell of hydrocarbons (though not as bad as my 308 for sure).

The fact is that hyperflows are as good as test pipes in both sound and power, but your car doesn't have to smell, you will have lower emissions, you will protect the environment, meet the law (if you care about that) and you will pass smog if your car has to. I just can't see any good reason not to use high flow cats except being too cheap to buy them!

Birdman

 

Has anyone had any experience with the X-Ost vs. Ansa, Tubi or other, as far as fitment, performance and sound? I'd definetly go with the hypercats as well, I wouldn't take the chance on getting caught here in California with no cats.

Jeff

 

my 85 QV has ANSA... I LOVE LOVE LOVE IT except for the resination at highway cruise speeds are a little annoying on long trips over a few hours.

 

I need to start using you for my tuneups. My 84 without cats would burn my eyes. In fact the smell would actually get in my clothes and I SWEAR we have been over the CO setting a dozen times in the pst 6 years. I finally bit the bullet and bought a hyperflow. I love it. No performance change that I can feel and no more smell.

 

We here in Colorado have strict emissions too ...... all I can say is that its a b*tch trying to get a 1971 VW bug to pass emissions. Can be done, but not fun. Way before cats and not exactly the cleanest burning engine.

4 trips to the mechanic and plenty of $$$s later, it passed.

Wasn't mine, was my friends, we were broke grad students at the time.

Thats why I love the south, no emissions (or at least none 20 years ago). My 78 Ford LTD had straight pipes with glass packs when I was in Alabama, noisy and pollutey, but it works when you're a starving college student.

James in Denver