599 Replacement Stereo - any recommendations

May I suggest you go with Alpine. It's the best stuff bar-none. And they make 1/2 DIN non-flip out and flip out head units.

 

If you have the BOSE system you'll have to replace all the drivers as well.

If you have the standard system, you'd do better to replace those drivers also, because are not great.

If you tell me where you are located I can give you recommendations for a few possible quality car stereo shops.

Why replace the deck and end up with the same poor quality of which you are now complaining?

 

I will upload pictures of my dads stereo install but, being an ameature, I dont know how to upload pics. It a pioneer system with ipod connection, 6 disc CD changer, Satelite and real time traffic.

 

I guess your 599 is pretty quiet. A proper GT car. My 360 or 430 w/Tubi the stereo was useless. The engine was just too loud and interfered too much. Stereo sounded great when it was parked with the engine turned off! But the 599 is a different beast, I guess. Is it pretty quiet in the cabin?

 

I changed the Becker in my 575 to an Alpine head unit with flip-up screen, Nav system and sat radio etc. Like you, I didn't want a major sound system but a functional system . IMHO the Alpine is it. I especially like the remote which I initially thought was a "so what" add on but which is very usefull when driving. If you change systems get a good installer. They have to take the interior apart to do the install and it is a bit distressing to watch.

Steve

 

Im out of town but when I get back Ill check the box. Its a really good system but once I figure out how to upload pics ill be gald to share them.

 

I've just had the Pioneer AVIC-HD1BT (US name: AVIC-Z1) installed in my 612 and I couldn't be happier... Excellent navigation, iPod connector, good sound quality (using the existing Bose AMP's & speakers) and it looks clean in the dash too. Pictures below.
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Very nice and clean install. IMHO if you are replacing the head unit you might as well investigate replacing the speakers too. The speakers most OEMs use are paper drivers and fairly poor in quality. Frankly, usually the speakers are the worst part of the chain. I can understand your wanting an easier to use experience, but not changing the speakers is -pardon my exaggeration- kind of like having the Ferrari but putting bicycle tires on it. Now, you don't necessarily have to drill holes everywhere, just get speakers that fit the current enclosures. I am sure there are several choices. If you do keep the OEM speakers, be sure what ever amp stage you get is matched to the electrical demands the OEM speakers require. Same advice for any speakers- make sure you have the right amplification. In my experience I have found the Alpine gear to be fairly easy to use, but I have also had my frustrations with them as well. Id say Pioneer is also in the group you should consider. Congrats on your fantastic vehicle.

best regards,
Jerry

 

My dad has that exact nav/stereo in his 612. Nice system.

 

I find the CF card feature in the stock radio fantastic. Why would you possibly want a 6CD changer when you can have a 4GB CF card? I have my folders sorted out and it so convenient when I am driving. I spent some time playing with the set-up and improved the sound a lot

 

if you realy want to go high end go with reus stereo system .

 

ah, audio/video subject..i'm a bit of buff on these things...anyhow, i also have a friend (trust worthy) who manages an audio shop...as with many things in life, you have a gazillion options to choose from. there is also tons of info on the net about these things. but it is a safe bet to stick to the more respected brands. you're not an audiophile correct--not important to have a 'studio' in your car, is what you said. from my and his experiences, the Pioneer you mentioned is a solid unit($900-1600), it does all the things you're looking for rather well, and is reliable from what we've seen(he sells quite a few of these units apparently, and I've seen the recall, service records at his shop, so not relying on hearsay regarding that--don't know about other dealers however). I believe it's not important for you to have the bells and whistles--a top of the line unit, so to speak? If so, then you probably don't need to spend any more for a model range any higher up--the Z1(which is double din size, not single like the N3--don't know if you mentioned if that's an issue). Alpine's IVA-D310 is another popular choice--single din with flip out screen...it has a nice touchscreen that 'clicks' when you touch it(i love this feature, as i'm a 'tactile' kind of person)...feels like you're pushing a normal button...very neat touch(no pun intended) compared to merely relying on hearing a beep to confirm your selections...this one runs about $1000-$1400 depending on where purchased...for this one, you will need a separate module for navi functions. For an 'all in one' piece, the Pioneer N3 is a solid choice. there are many other brands/choices of course, but i couldn't possibly detail them here...Pioneer makes good units, as does Alpine..i don't think you can go wrong either way...also, if navigation is important to you, make sure you ask about the latest map dvds available for whichever unit you purchase...some are sold with older, non updated maps depending on when the unit was manufactured... also, while you're at it, you should consider upgrading the speakers in the car as well--even modest ones will be an improvement on what is already in there. it's not a big deal, if you're having the head unit replaced anyways. besides, most factory speakers were optimized(ie, equalized sonically and electrically-usually to make up for poor sound quality) for the stock head unit. a lot of times when you change the deck, the sound will be affected dramatically. while i agree that most people don't need super dooper high end systems in their cars, for casual listening or whatever, i think that there should be at least a 'modest' system in your particular dream machine, as factory stuff is 99% of the time rubbish--(i don't even want to get started on the options for so called 'premium' sound systems that are offered by car companies--one of the industry's sick little rip-off schemes)... they are anything but premium. anyhow, whatever you decide, just make sure you have it done somewhere that's reputable, and of course, DON'T let anyone in sales push you to buy something you don't want or need, which is a stupidly common issue... If you'd like more info, send me a PM, i'd be happy to help if i can...

 

I swapped the Alpine IVA-D310 out for the Pioneer, I didn't like the flip-out screen it was flimsy and blocked the vents above the radio unit, the screen wasn't as bright and was prone to reflection, navigation was good but that's about all.

 

I will try 1 of these in my M5 http://www.harmankardon.com/drive-1/
It lets you connect an ipod that is hidden elsewhere & it looks great too

Looks like it just glues on

 

check to see if the rails for the screen that come out can be fabricated to be loner so it clears the flap

 

Many of the Alpine units are fully compatible with iPOD players and all iPOD functions are operated and displayed from the Alpine Head unit.

 

There were some positive mentions of Pioneer here. They make nice headunits, but from my experience their speakers sound terrible, like a clockradio. IMO, Alpine, Boston and MB Quart all are great choices if you're looking at redoing the speakers too, provided you're pushing them with enough power.

 

The trick with the Pioneer headunits is that they are one of few NAV units that have decent volatge on the outputs and the way the pioneer integrates their IPOD, 6-12 CD Chnager, Xm traffic, Sirius, back up cameras etc is really the cleanest and easiest to use of any of the systems I'd tested.

If you want really, really hi fi sound quality, you won't be able to use a NAV unit.

Regardless of which brand you use, everyone makes you trade off between bells and whistles and sound quality.

That having been said the stock Ferrari head units are very poor and a nightmare to use. Simply changing out the head unit for an decent $350 after market single DIN pioneer premier will make a night and day difference especially on the BOSE sound in the 599 and the 612.

This is the case on most cars these days, why manufactures use such poor source units and then add a nice Bose speaker and amp is beyond me? BMW's been doing the same thing for years. You can add the best speakers on the market, but if the source is bad, the sound quality is going to be terrible.

 

I am not personally a huge Pioneer fan, but I love Alpine and Eclipse.

My reccomendations would be one of those. It all depends on what your goals are with the system.

Eclipse has the better sound processors and audio quality, aside from really boutique brands Eclipse cannot be beat here.

The Alpine systems have the iPod controller built right in, so all that is needed is to route a cable. The Eclipse requires a controller box to be installed, which will make the install a bit more complicated.

The Alpine uses a DVD baised navigation system where the Eclipse uses the internal hard drive to store its data.

One thing that I love on the Eclipse is that it has a built in 30gb hard drive so you can always have your favorite tunes right on the unit.

The Alpine requires the NVE-N872A nav. add on to get the nav function, but it is more comprehensive than the Eclipse. It has built in real time traffic and Zagat ratings on resturants and attractions in the area.

The Feature content on the Alpine products is really tough to beat. They have great sound quality, if not quite as good as the Eclipse, and they are both high quality. If you feel like spending $3k on the setup, Get the Alpine with the nav. and the iPod adapter.

http://www.crutchfield.com is a good site to get them at a good price unless you have an installer who can too.

Eclipse:
http://www.eclipse-web.com/avn/avn5495overviews.html

Alpine:
http://www.alpine-usa.com/US-en/products/product.php?model=IVA-W200