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Discussion in 'Technical Q&A' started by finnerty, Jan 16, 2007.

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  1. finnerty

    finnerty F1 World Champ

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    #1 finnerty, Jan 16, 2007
    Does anyone know where I can get data on or a copy of the factory specifications for chassis, inside body geometry, and drivetrain hitch points? Specifically, I'm looking for details on the engine bay / rear space frame / rear body region. Did Ferrari ever print a factory workshop manual for these cars?

    I'm trying to explore the options for longitudinally mounting an engine / gearbox in a 308.

    Anyone know of anyone who has done this before?

    Thanks.
     
  2. BigTex

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    #2 BigTex, Jan 16, 2007
    Sheehan has a car now like this.....

    It took bales of money and the guy went to jail...


    Differences in length as well you know....308 vs. 288...

    But I won't discourage you..................
     
  3. Ricambi America

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    #3 Ricambi America, Jan 16, 2007
    I've got the original parts book, if that might help. I'd gladly mail you a Xerox of it.


    -Daniel
     
  4. Wade

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    #4 Wade, Jan 16, 2007
  5. BigTex

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    #5 BigTex, Jan 16, 2007
    ************ hasn't been responding lately.......
     
  6. Rifledriver

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    #6 Rifledriver, Jan 16, 2007
    Not too much printed tech info on the 288. I have the small book we were given at 288 school and there is also a Webber Marelli IAW diagnosis manual and a transmission manual. Those are all I have ever seen and none of those have the information you are looking for.

    Most of the information you want will be the same as on the F40 and that shop manual is pretty good.
     
  7. shill288

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    #7 shill288, Jan 17, 2007
    The factory never printed an GTO workshop manual. You went to school to learn about it. There are spare parts manuals, a gearbox manual, injection manual, time schedule, etc.; but, no workshop manual. The early F40 workshop manual is the closest thing to a GTO workshop manual.

    Why not just purchase one of the cars someone has already sunk too much money to think about into such a project?

    Steve
     
  8. finnerty

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    #8 finnerty, Jan 17, 2007
    Actually, I'm not looking to do a 308-to-288 conversion.

    ...I have something much more ludicrous in mind...he, he. If I ever get the project underway, I'll share the story with the F-chat community. But, for now, I'm just researching...
     
  9. SkipH

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    #9 SkipH, Jan 17, 2007
    I have a 308 with a Chevy small block and a ZF 5 speed from a pantera mounted longitudinal, all of which I did myself. I haven't driven it yet but it's getting close. Extending the wheelbase is remarkably easy but moving the wheel wells was a little harder. Turned out really nice though so far. I'll be happy to share what I've done so far.
     
  10. finnerty

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    #10 finnerty, Jan 17, 2007
    My plan will keep my car's drivetrain all Ferrari --- just not 308.

    Get your hands on 351 Cleveland engine, and you could have the perfect cross between a Pantera & 308!!

    Sounds interesting what you've done, though...I'd love to see some pics, and know more. What kind of tune / mods are you running on the engine?

    Feel free to PM me if you don't want it posted on the site.

    Cheers
     
  11. finnerty

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    #11 finnerty, Jan 17, 2007
    DANIEL ---

    Thanks very much for your generosity. But, I've already looked through a 288 parts manual, and unfortunately, it doesn't have the info I need --- thank you again for offering...

    Cheers
     
  12. SkipH

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    #12 SkipH, Jan 17, 2007
    The engine uses a chevy block, crank, and rods. Everything else is aftermarket. Aluminum "Trick Flow" heads, roller rockers, forged rods and pistons, stronger cam, blueprinted and dynamically balanced. It hasn't been dyno'd but should have some over 400 hp. I have also modified the suspension with adjustable coil overs. The brakes are Wilwood with 13" Coleman rotors. New sanded and buffed acrylic urethane paint and larger (17x9 and 17x8) aftermarket wheels. And why not keep it all Ferrari? Because I can't afford all Ferrari and I like dependibility.
     
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    #13 96cobrakid, Jan 17, 2007



    a 308 can be dependable and if you can't afford all Ferrari, you are into the wrong cars
     
  14. shill288

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    #14 shill288, Jan 17, 2007
    What exactly are you looking for? I could take measurements right off my 288 GTO.

    If you're going to attempt to put a V12 engine in a 308/328, it's been done and documented. But, he kept the transverse layout I believe. I have a copy of the guy's (Goldsmith, or something like that) documentation he put together on the project if you're interested.

    Steve
     
  15. SpannerMan

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    #15 SpannerMan, Jan 18, 2007
    I will ask my co-worker if he has the info you need. He has a 77 308 that he modified to fit a Northstar and Porsche combo. He lengthened the chassis, and I am sure he was shooting for 288 specs. You could come out to San Diego and check it out if you want.

    Erik
     
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    #17 shill288, Jan 18, 2007
    288s have an engine/gearbox subframe. You don't lift the engine out. You just unhook some plumbing, lift up the rear of the car, and the whole engine, gearbox, driveline slides out. Ferrari even made a special dolly just for this purpose. Of course, any dolly will do.

    Steve
     
  18. finnerty

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    #18 finnerty, Jan 19, 2007
    Thanks for the offer, Steve. At this point, I don't even know enough yet to ask about specific measurements. First, I need to look at a schematic of the entire rear sub-frame to get an overview of the geometry, then I may be able to ask some more intelligent questions about specific dimensions. When I get to that point, I may ping you then for some Q&A.

    Thanks, again --- very generous of you...

    I actually do have access to an F-40 so I'll check it out a bit --- I wasn't aware that the 288 and the F-40 layouts were so similar. But of course, aside from mounting, the big issue will be clearance and headroom to the 308 bodywork --- which I have to think the GTO will be a better reference for than the F-40.

    Cheers
     

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