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400i Ignition timing

Discussion in 'Technical Q&A' started by timthetooth, Jan 20, 2007.

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  1. timthetooth

    timthetooth Rookie

    Dec 18, 2003
    33
    Hi Guys,

    I have an 84 400i, and have set the ignition timing to the stock 8degrees BTDC. The car runs smooth, but if I advance it a bit I get more power all round. I am using 100 octane fuel and seem to get no pre-detonation , has anyone got any info on how much advance you can use. The car is an auto, so the engine never really labours as it could with a manual, so it is difficult for me to assess if it is pinking or not.
    I will check the advance curve on the distributer carefully when next possible (as suggested by a member before), but when I was last under the car it seemed to be ok as the timing light showed on the fly wheel.
    Regards,
    Tim.
     
  2. Steve Magnusson

    Steve Magnusson Two Time F1 World Champ
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    Jan 11, 2001
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    Any possibility that you could make some temporary paint/chalk marks on the crankshaft front pulley or HD and rig up/use a temporary pointer or use a nearby feature as the pointer? You're just looking for a relative timing change and not an absolute timing position. Just a thought if "under the car" is cumbersome/ackward -- it sure sounds so ;)
     
  3. timthetooth

    timthetooth Rookie

    Dec 18, 2003
    33
    That was quick!
    Thanks for your reply.
    I have the use of a car lift so getting underneath is no problem. Also from memory the fly wheel is marked with the maximum advance position, and this is why I think this distributer is probably ok, as it advanced correctly when last checked (10 months ago).
    I am interested more in anyones experience running a bit more advance, and would be interested in any rolling road figures with power changes at different settings.
    Thanks again 91tr
     
  4. Steve Magnusson

    Steve Magnusson Two Time F1 World Champ
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    Jan 11, 2001
    26,822
    30°30'40" N 97°35'41" W (Texas)
    Full Name:
    Steve Magnusson
    Understood, but I was thinking that the shape of that advance curve would also need a measurement at 2000 RPM (crankshaft) as well.

    Anybody have a 400i WSM to check if the static + chart = 30 deg BTDC at 5000 RPM (crankshaft) -- i.e., the WSM doesn't have the OM discrepancy?
     

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