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Ignition zapper!!!

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  1. Horsefly

    Horsefly F1 Veteran

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    The technology exists today, so how long will it be before every new car has a laser sensor on all 4 sides of the car that will be wired into an ignition kill system. Police officers will carry a serial numbered laser auto "kill gun" or "ignition zapper" and all they will have to do is point it at a car and pull the trigger. The sensors on the offending car will immediately read the zapper and kill the ignition system thereby stopping the car. Each zapper gun will be serial numbered, tracked, and each use will be logged by the police car's computer as well as stored in the ignition computer of the car being zapped to thwart UNapproved zapping and help bolster the legal side of the usage of the zapper.

    There would be no more high speed chases that would get people killed and injured every day. Of course the "phase in" of zappable cars would take many years, but eventually as time passes, the zapper would become a valuable tool for law enforcement. Cops would have no more "carte blanche" to pull people over than they do today, it's just that the car being pulled over would HAVE to pull over or ZAP,....you coast to a stop and avoid a high speed chase and the associated carnage.

    Thoughts?
     
  2. fastliz

    fastliz Formula Junior

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    Yeah... brilliant. Kill the ignition / engine, and the driver loses power steering and brakes. In today's 2-ton++ cars, that's a recipe for big problems.

    No thanks. Big brother is not welcome here.

    Mike
     
  3. cessnav8or

    cessnav8or Formula 3

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    +1 good point. Also sure you are talking having all guns serial numbered but how long do you think hackers will take to figure them out and produce their own that would work. I see this being a bigger problem to law abiding people then it would protect.
     
  4. Horsefly

    Horsefly F1 Veteran

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    You're correct. It would make much more sense for the driver of the car to floor the accelerator and take off at 100mph. That would never endanger anybody, would it??? "Zapping" a MOVING car would only be done under emergency conditions. Zapping a car for a routine traffic stop would only be done once the car had come to a complete stop thereby preventing a drive off as soon as the cop exited the police car.

    So you guys probably wouldn't like my idea for an RF tag in every car and a tag reader wired into every signal light pole so that any car could be constantly tracked as it passes every intersection???
     
  5. fastliz

    fastliz Formula Junior

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    Yeah... let's penalize / punish everyone in the name of protecting ourselves from a VERY few deviants.

    RF tags to track my car's movement? No thanks. I'll take that tag out of my car and attach it to an armadillo or racoon. Let the feds track the critters instead! :) Or maybe just flush it down the toilet.

    Mike

    PS... A good bumper sticker I saw recently said: "If guns kill people, then spoons made Rosie O'Donnell fat."
     
  6. cessnav8or

    cessnav8or Formula 3

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    This thread may need to get moved to the P & R Section.

    to Answer your question No I wouldn't like the idea that I am being tracked everytime I start my vehicle. I don't want big brother crawling all over me with a microscope. The above idea is the most asinine idea I have heard of for a while.
     
  7. Whisky

    Whisky Three Time F1 World Champ
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    I really want some of the drugs you are on.... not.

    Yeah, let's turn us into a complete communistic state where EVERY move we make is monitored by the gov't.

    If there is a nut in a car, and it's warranted that it needs to be stopped, it's simple - SHOOT IT.
    I'd rather zap certain folks in the ACLU which sue any gov't entity for 'wrongful dhhd;h;dhah;db (whatever)' at the drop of a hat.
     
  8. writerguy

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    Horsie I think the TinFoil hat is too tight

    Too LAte Tech beyond via a Tazer like thing that can be shot at a car from another car Overloading electrical and the car stops
     
  9. Horsefly

    Horsefly F1 Veteran

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    Of course you can already be tracked by every cell phone call and credit card transaction that you make.
     
  10. cessnav8or

    cessnav8or Formula 3

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    True why the need or interest in enabling Big brother any more.
     
  11. Zahiba

    Zahiba Formula 3

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    New breed of cop requires a new breed of criminal.

    Like all things, they'll bypass it in some way or another
     
  12. fcman

    fcman Formula Junior

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    I would think an adaptive speed limiter would be more feasible, limit's car to the speed limit of the road you are driving on.

    On the note of people bypassing these things, of course it will happen no matter what. But most people won't be bothered enough to go and bypass them so it will work for the majority.
     
  13. RoWis

    RoWis F1 Rookie

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    exactly what i was thinking
     
  14. rollsorferrari?

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    that idea is all fun and dandy until someone makes a mistake and stops the wrong car, or does it in the middle of traffic and you have yourselves the traffic jam from hell. i'm sorry, but there are lines in this age and day, and i think this idea may cross that one.
     
  15. fastliz

    fastliz Formula Junior

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    Disagree. Such a thing would be tremendously dangerous. I think many here would agree that more often, I have escaped serious crashes by hitting the throttle rather than the brakes. Hitting the brakes would have potentially KILLED me. If I'm on a 55 mph road and doing 55 mph, I don't want my only option to be braking.

    Taking control of the car away from the driver will hurt far more people than the number of criminals it may rein in.

    Mike
     
  16. Horsefly

    Horsefly F1 Veteran

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    If you're not being chased by the cops, why would you even worry about it? So you think that while you're in the middle of a potential serious crash, some guy is going to stop in the middle of the mayhem and point a bogus zapper gun at your car?
     
  17. fastliz

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    I was talking about the additional suggestion of putting in speed governors that are synchronized with the limit of the road being driven. In other words, he was suggesting that if you're on a 45 mph limit road, your car would be speed limited to 45 mph.

    My point was that such a device would be very dangerous. I would say that the throttle has saved me from being smashed by another driver more times than the brakes. Imagine you're about to be t-boned and you nail the throttle to get away and have "big brother" say, "NO. You can't do that." CRASH!

    Mike
     

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