Interesting. Chevy V8 in a 308 project

They haven't gotten very far -- the disassembly is the easy part! Should be interesting to see where this goes

http://www.exoticperformanceplus.com/projectCar.php?car=45

 

its what that yahoo jesse james should have done.

 

LAME.

They are going to put an automatic transmission in it. Sheesh, if you are going to castrate a Ferrari, at least keep the stick shift!

Interesting....anyone notice the aftermarket tubular suspension A arms? Where'd those com from?

Birdman

 

GEEZ LOUISE! I didn't see that, indeed, how lame!

 

At a minimum, turn the motor length wise and put in a G-50. Hydromatic=yuck!!


Darrell.

 

Okay, opinions always vary in this camp BUT, a Ferrari without a Ferrari engine is a modified Fiat. Two cents please.

 

A G50 is a good transaxle but a ZF-2 works a lot better. It is made to go behind a V8 and the shift linkage is a lot easier. That's what I have in my Chevy V8 conversion.

 

This has been discussed enough. Its no longer a Ferrari. If a GTO replica built off the remains of a GTE can be expelled from the Cavallino Classic for not being a Ferrari, this thing is just a pile of junk.

 

I think that was a QV too cause the front hood has the louvers above the rad. so how could that be an 82?

 

Interesting non-stock upper and lower rear control arms on that chassis...

 

"a Ferrari without a Ferrari engine is a modified Fiat."

Does FIAT make the bodies? I thought Scagletti made the bodies (or used to at least). Wouldn't it be a modified Scagletti? Or a maybe it's a Pinninfarina.

"Hmm, there's going to be a lot of room once this drivetrain comes out."

Really? I don't think so. They don't really think so either since they mention removing the fuel tanks and also using the trunk if necessary.

 

Conversion in what?

 

I have to say that while I don't think it will still be a ferrari, it will be fast and run. It's probably going to be 600 hp or something like that..but it's probably also going to cost about $15k to do the conversion. With that budget a 308 engine will make those kind of hp number too so I'm not really clear on what the gain would be...reliability maybe.

 

The alleged morality of such a project aside, The auto trans is probably the only practical way to go. Setting it up with something like a V8 longitudinally with a ZF transaxle (Pantera style) would either eliminate a place for the driver to sit or require a bit of a stretch. A FWD transverse engine/trans setup would be RELATIVELY simple. Automatic is pretty much the only choice for this.

Beats the crap out of the 308 w/Fiero drivetrain and suspension found on another thread..

 

At the power levels they're projecting and the transverse configuration, there's really not a good manual tranny out there that will work. Even the new G6 manual -- which has been used with the V8s in a Fiero chassis -- don't seem to hold up in long term use. All the big power GM FWD or Fieros seem to be running the auto.

 

and elsewhere

PLEASE, PLEASE, post some pics. Start a new thread on that machine, I want to see it

(and yes, people are going to flame, but Bob Norwood did a similar thing for a Bonneville record)

 

without that motor it just a great looking kit car, they just used a Ferrari for the start of the kit that is all they did and all they will have, is a kit car.

Its the motor that makes a Ferrari and I don't understand their complaint about losing and having to find 2 $400 distributors for the original motor, they will spend much more than that on the conversion. I would not want that kit car, my car is done the other way around, not a Ferrari but it has a Ferrari motor. Why, because its all about the motor.

 

Not too sure about that, with the exception that the parent company is FIAT of course. But are the V-8's still cast by FIAT ? I don't think so, the Dino V6 parts were cast by FIAT but I don't think the V8 are.

So, there is nothing FIAT left in that car...just a unfortunate hulk of a once incredible car.

 

Actually Mendeola, Albins and Hewland all make transmissions that will handle 600hp with ease. All three also make sequential boxes as well. This is what all the off road cars are running. They can be installed to run as a rear or mid engine set-up. These are actually much stronger than even the original ZF box for the Pantera.


Darrell.

 

I'm sure you're correct. I meant to say that there's not really anything from other stock(ish) GM products (such as the G6 or Caddy or whatever) that's set up for that kind of power. After all, these guys are worried about a couple of thousand worth of missing Ferrari parts, so I wouldn't think they'd dump a full race tranny in the car.

Do you have links for the other boxes you mentioned? I'd like to learn more.

Thanks
T

 

Now your starting to talk real money (Hewland). You'd be better off to fix what you have.

 

I'll probably get flamed for this but...

If a motor is toast or you don't have funds to rebuild, I would think there are more options than a Chevy V-8. Now I'm just thinking out loud here. Wouldn't a newer type motor from a FWD donor be able to slip in w/o too much fuss. I mean the motor and transaxle are one unit already. Mounts would have to be fabbed up I'm sure. Hell, you could get a V-6 out of a Camry that stock puts out 270hp (matching a 328) and loads more torque. It gets 25mpg (mixed city/highway) in a 3500lb Camry, so should be even better in a 3000lb 308 (probably get 30+ mpg on the highway). It would pass emissions (for those who care or need it to) with flying colors. And, again in the 3500lb Camry, it does 0-60 in 6.1 and the quarter in 14.5 @ 99.9mph. With 500lbs less it should easily cut a half second of the 0-60 and maybe even a full second off the quarter. That, and 100,000 mile tune ups. Not a bad package.

Soul??? We don't need no soul.

 

Caddilac Northstar would also be in this camp.

 

I checked into using a Hewland transaxle in my car but they are made for racing and are too noisy for a street car because they have straight cut gears which are stronger for racing use but are much noiser. I talked with Bob Norwood about my project. He used a ZF in his original conversion but it was not strong enough. He was running about 1500 hp. A zf is good for about 700. The original Ford GT40 used a ZF. They are getting a bit hard to find, though. As for cost, I have a dynamically balanced and blueprinted small block chevy which is all aluminum except for the block for about 4k. The transaxle cost 5k but I am still waaaayyy under ferrari prices. My first tune up will be in about 30k miles and will consist of new plugs. I will post pictures as soon as I get the car back down on the floor. If anyone is in the Raleigh NC area, feel free to give me a call and come by.

 

Yeah can't wait for pics!