Tried E85?

I'm pretty sure a Ferrari won't run on E85...

 

i doubt. from what i have read, ethanol has less energy than gasoline per unit hence the lower MPG.

 

Unless your car is made to run e85 DON'T DO IT. The use of pure E85 in standard gasoline car engines may void the manufacturer's warranty, disrupt oxygenation control in fuel-injected cars, and result in power loss. It may also interfere with proper operation of the catalytic converter.

E85 can also cause engine damage, since prolonged exposure to high concentrations of ethanol may corrode metal and rubber parts in older engines (pre-1988) designed primarily for gasoline. In the United States, post-1988 fuel-injected cars are designed to accept E10 fuel, and may be tolerant of higher concentrations of ethanol to varying degrees, usually at least 20%.

Another risk is that of water contamination, which can produce engine wear directly and through corrosive formic acid in the combustion process. Oil and acid neutralizer additives can counteract these risks.

After-market conversion kits, for converting standard engines to operate on E85, are not legal to manufacture in the United States without EPA approval. Converted vehicles also usually require emissions certification, which is often not economically feasible.

 

Ethanol and methenol, both have less energy per oz than gasoline. That is why when people convert over to methanol on performance engines they have to increase fuel flow to the motor. No performance gain to a stock motor with stock compression.


Darrell.

 

Right, but that obviously that would require and engine tear down. and dealing with difficulty finding fuel. Methanol is also very corrosive to the fuel system. There is horsepower to be had but not without a lot of hassle.


Darrell.

 

And easier ways to boost octane!

 

To change a 308 to E-85


Purchase Delphi E85 injectors. P/N 25380505 $ 150.00 each

Change all fuel systems to Stainless steel, PTFE or HDPE.

Raise Compression with Pistons Turbo or SC.

Buy Fuel from J.B. Dewer, lots of them stations here out West.

Haul A$$.

Put anti-middle east, sticker on your bumper.

Get tax credit.


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Edwardo

 

sounds like a losing proposition to me. good luck.

 

Well, you cabn get the Webber gaskets from Pierce Manifolds. They have a website.

Where I live there's a lot of stations (most) that have ethanol in their mix, and you just cannot avoid it unless you go to speciality shops and buy racing gas for $4 bucks a gallon, or something like that. So I can say that I've run some, and I emphasize little bit, in my '77 GTB. I've found no difference in the performance, but then I don't hammer it very much either. I have noticed that if I stop for a few minutes, as in getting gas, then the gas tends to boil out of the carbs. The fuel pump just runs forever, until I get tired of listening to it and go ahead and start the car. It starts hard then the car runs like **** for a few moments and after awhile it smooths out and runs fine. The boiling off at the carbs is bothering me a little bit, but so far no fires. That reminds me. I'd better check my insurance. (grin)

I've had the carbs apart and haven't seen any damage with any of the gaskets. It's got pretty fresh fuel hoses on it and I haven't seen any damage there either. I'm thinking about getting a piece of stratoflex hose and soaking it in ethanol gas for a couple of weeks and seeing what happens to it. I've been thinking about changing my hoses to Stratoflex with reusalble fittings. The problem I have with doing it is that there's some many bare nipples on the system at the gas tanks and fuel filter and so forth that it hardly seems worth it.

Bob Wassam

 

A lot of oil companies use ethanol (at not more than 10&#37 as an oxygenate in gasoline. In the past MTBE was used, but many states have outlawed MTBE (pollution concerns) while providing a tax incentive to use ethanol.

All cars for the past 20 years have been designed to accommodate ethanol up to 10 percent in gasoline. As posted earlier, E85 used in a conventional car will destroy most of the fuel system.