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Miura, the original supercar

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  1. joe sackey

    joe sackey Five Time F1 World Champ

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    OK let me answer carefully:
    - Bertone SpA DID NOT manufacture the P400SV using the rear light units you speak of. ALL rear light units for the SV were the same Altissimo units with three lenses of white/red/amber EXCEPT the 21 USA cars which used red lenses for the turnsignal portion of the unit instead of amber.
    - HOWEVER, I know of at least 1 Miura SV that did have a recomissioning by the factory in the 1980s (by which time the original Altissimo units may have been unavailable to them) and they used these same retrofit units.
    - W are not sure if 4906's rear light units were a retrofit by the factory OR a privateer retrofit. Either way, the car was not manufactured like that.

    Joe
     
  2. hammermfg

    hammermfg Karting

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    Hopefully it didn't sound like I was insinuating anything about the authenticity of someones car - I'm just a curious individual, that's all.

    I really appreciate the benefit your knowledge of these automobiles, and your willingness to share.

    Thanks again, Joe.
     
  3. joe sackey

    joe sackey Five Time F1 World Champ

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    Nope, you had a legitmate question.
    Bottom line is, its a genuine P400SV, and the post-production tailights are a minor detail.
    Joe
     
  4. JRTurbo909

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    some pics from VCR sundays a while back...

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    shah
     
  5. joe sackey

    joe sackey Five Time F1 World Champ

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    #355 joe sackey, Feb 8, 2007
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    Thanks for the images Phillipe. There will be a fair few old 60s images youve never seen before in the book.

    Joe
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  6. FrostyAK

    FrostyAK Formula Junior

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    This thread is like Adriana Lima...looking never gets old.

    - Christopher
     
  7. joe sackey

    joe sackey Five Time F1 World Champ

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    Thanks for sharing...
     
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  9. joe sackey

    joe sackey Five Time F1 World Champ

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    4980 is a still-original USA-spec escapee! Lovely car.

    Joe
     
  10. Miura Jota

    Miura Jota F1 Rookie

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  12. M.B.

    M.B. Formula Junior

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    nice parking :) must be 4443
     
  13. mcg

    mcg Formula Junior

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    Don't know the VIN but I bet the SV wasn't the last of the three cars pictured to park.
     
  14. Michael RPM

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    Wow....those two cars are parked a little tooclose for comfort. At least the owner is not afraid to drive it.
     
  15. PhilNotHill

    PhilNotHill Two Time F1 World Champ
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    I had one of these ram into the back of my 1998 M3 going over Vail Pass a few years ago.

    I was with the Ferrari Club (the 355 was in the shop) when the lead car which was an F40 locked up his brakes trying to avoid a semi who moved into the passing lane.

    There was so much tire smoke no one could see and we all hit the brakes. The Miura behind me with old brakes and skinny tires hit my rear.

    So keep your distance from the car ahead if you are driving fast down hill. We were going 70-80 mph at the time.

    He insurance paid for all my repairs. But it took 6 weeks.

    Ciao

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  16. joe sackey

    joe sackey Five Time F1 World Champ

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    It is Miura P400 SV 5012, ex-Alain Aouizerat, sold by Christies at the August 2006 Monterey Auction. "Looks" perfect, but has needs. Yet still, a nice SV, ultimate spec (factory A/C, split sump, 5,000 chassis number) in classic livery. Pictured in Notting Hill Gate in London a few years ago when owned by a certain Reza Rashidian.

    Joe

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  17. LV Eric

    LV Eric Formula Junior

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    Joe, how i missed this thread is beyond me, i must see my Dr. to change my meds or something, I agree with you on the title.
     
  18. M.B.

    M.B. Formula Junior

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    Joe, you are good in this 4443 also has no airco..
     
  19. joe sackey

    joe sackey Five Time F1 World Champ

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    Its here for everyone's enjoyment and it reveals how important the cars are.

    As far as being "The Original Supercar", what else do you need when you have the grand daddy of them all?

    Joe
     
  20. joe sackey

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    #370 joe sackey, Feb 13, 2007
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    This car in the factory's own "Museo Lamborghini" has fostered more than its fair share of dreams, and thence the desire to own a Miura SV....

    Joe
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  21. joe sackey

    joe sackey Five Time F1 World Champ

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    Thankyou.
    However the most important comment to make regarding 4443 is that it is NOT AN SV, albeit a nice looking Miura, 'pretending' to be an SV.

    Joe
     
  22. yale

    yale Formula Junior

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    #372 yale, Feb 13, 2007
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    Sorry for the hard to see photo of a rough Muira Jota copy behind the SWB. Taken in a NY area establishment. Best, Yale (coming over from the Vintage thread, love Muiras...and Isleros).
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  23. joe sackey

    joe sackey Five Time F1 World Champ

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    Looks like a standard P400/P400S quite frankly...
     
  24. M.B.

    M.B. Formula Junior

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    I know its not an SV, it has wrong taillights aswell and a TERRIBLE history, sorry to say all this but its just as it is..
     
  25. joe sackey

    joe sackey Five Time F1 World Champ

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    Well hold on, we are NOT disparaging the car itself - God forbid, we dont do that here!
    Just clarifying accurately for the un-initiated that it is NOT and SV. Thats all. No matter how much a P400S is dressed up, or presented, it will always be a P400S.

    To me there is only one relevant question about a modified Miura:
    How much will it cost to put it back to its original Bertone SpA production specification? Deduct said cost from the sales price and there is its true value. Im suggesting more potential buyers of a modified Miura should ask themselves the same question.

    Joe
     

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