Spot The Difference

The Red Bull has an extra wing behind the trumpets on the sidepods, which the Toro Rosso doesn't. That's the only difference i could see.

 

Well, the only difference I see is that there's a big bull on the side of the Torro Rosso car. Maybe that's their way of saying that they're full of BS and the cars really are identical?

 

Yeah that is the only difference other than the paint job, driver, and engine. I am amazed at how identical these cars are it ridiculous, what are they paying the engineers to do at Toro Rosso if they just take car from Red Bull. They already stole the word Scuderia from Ferrari and now they take cars from RB. Best of luck in court Mr. Berger

 

Agreed that and the paintjob are the only things that set them apart.

They use Ferrari engines.

 

arent they owned by the same dude ? Torro Rosso = Red bull in italian

 

identical. Just like the 1995 Ligier was identical to the 1995 Benetton, both teams then run by Briatore.

 

Yes. Both teams are owned by Red Bull-owner Dieter Mateschiz.

 

So what,Ferrari already claimed it. Plus they didnt use Ferrari engines last year and I also dont see a Scuderia Spyker

 

Scuderia is the Italian word for racingteam or racing stable (when talking about horses). I don't think the word can be claimed as part of a brand.

 

‘Scuderia’ is the italian word for 'stable', though not as in a stall where horses are kept, but as in the group term for a collection of horses or cars. It can also mean 'chassis' when referring to motorsport and in recent times a race team based in Italy.

 

I have never heard the word "scuderia" attached to anything other than Ferrari. I know Ferrari doesn't have it trademarked but still I thought they could be more creative.

 

+1

 

+1

 

Sauber got away with running a car taken from the previous year's Ferrari mould a few years ago - I can't see Bernie letting anything interfering with the image of F1 he has cultivated - so no court case this time either..........


Paul M

 

That is actually this year's Red Bull RB3 and this year's STR2. And their stance isn't that the cars are different, but that they just aren't breaking the rules.

The CA says that no team shall use a design whose intellectual property rights are owned by another constructor. The car was designed by an outside consultancy firm (Red Bull Technologies or something like that), with assistance from both teams' engineers. So, neither team owns the intellectual property rights and is thus not the "constructor" of the car as deemed by the concorde agreement. Since this "consultancy firm" didn't sign the concorde agreement like RBR and STR did, this doesn't apply to them.

The situation with Super Aguri and Honda looks like it will turn out to be the same, but Aguri hasn't held their launch yet.

 

Well, Spyker definitely don't like the idea of STR competing with that car - and their bosses are just furious !
http://freshf1.wordpress.com/2007/02/19/spyker-bosses-rivals-inherently-wrong/

 

When STR was first announced, it was announced as Squadra Torro Rosso. Some time later they changed the name to Scuderia because Squadra is used more for sports teams and such, whereas Scuderia is traditionally used by racing teams. At least thats how I remember the reasoning.

 

IF you google translate "team" from English to Italian you get squadra.

 

STR also took the name from their sister team. ITS THE SAME NAME IN A DIFFERENT LANGUAGE. It must be utterly confusing for people who speak English and Italian. The fact that one company is sponsoring two F1 teams is very shady in the first place. Next time Scuderia Toro Rosso(aka Team Red Bull translated from Italian) should get a better name.

 

If one car must be 'different' from the other, then it's going to come down to a legal battle over the definition of the word 'different'.

There are a lot of little things they can do under the bodywork to make the cars 'different', the question then becomes, what is the meaning of 'different' ?

As an example, most golf balls look the same on the outside, but most are different on the inside.

 

I don't really think they "took" the name STR. I think they were more given the name by Red Bull. And I don't see why it would be confusing for anyone no matter what language they speak...they have different names. Regardless of the meaning, the names are different.

Mark