NASCAR- CHEATERS NEVER PROSPER

You're late to the party.

Toyota has been racing and winning in the NASCAR Truck Series for a couple years now.

 

Cheating in NASCAR is nothing new, I even remember seeing a book about it at Bobby Archer's Motor sports for sale describing the ways it's been done & not to get caught. This is going to be a stumbling point for Toyota stepping into NASCAR NEXTEL series, I really hope they take the championship after all this crap is over.

 

Huh? You need a great car in F1 for any shot.

F1 teams do try to bend the rules. When you have a lot of money and points on the line, it is just human nature to try to get any advantage you can.

 

The trucks have been around for around 11-12 years.

 

In the US, the NASCAR truck series draws more viewers than F1.

NASCAR may not be your cup of tea, but denigrating it and refering to its fans as rednecks and other pejoratives is offensive to those who do follow it. There are plenty of people who think F1 fans are effete snobs, there is no need to reinforce that stereotype.

 

I know a young driver that won a Semi-pro Formula series who ventured into Craftsman Trucks.This person has more driving talent than anyone I personnally know.
This is a "Spec " series.
He left it shortly there after with only average results.
He did not like the level of the competition. IE he could not win.
The other drivers were too fierce, unfair, whatever. Call it what you will.
Assuming road race drivers are somehow superior in ability is false.

 

Actually, the trucks and the Nextel cup cars are virtually identical under the sheet metal.

While I am not necessarily a NASCAR fan, my interest has been piqued by Montoya's move to the series. As a result, I have been educating myself about that form of racing as much as I can. I am sure that the same is true for many others in this forum. What I appreciate about that series is the closeness of the racing, on any given GP weekend the question is Alonso or Kimi, in NASCAR there may be 20 different drivers who can win. To me that makes for excitement.

I liken it to the first time I went to a 1 mile oval. I have always been a fan of road-racing, I couldn't care less about ovals, especially one-milers, and I used to hate watching the bullrings on tv back in the days of CART. Then I went to NHIS for the inaugral IndyCar race and became hooked. I would rather watch a 1-mile oval live than go to most road races, the entire track is in view, the racing fast and furious and there are a million lead changes. Had I been more close minded about it, I would never have learned to appreciate how exciting an oval track can be. It is a different form of racing, requiring different skill sets than road racing, but it is enjoyable in its own right.

 

Talk of cheating, 'stock' cars, and bending/breaking the rules makes me think we should resurrect Can-Am (FIA Group 7) racing. Two seats and bodywork enclosing the wheels...and that's about it for regulations. It'd be interesting to see what they'd cook up these days in terms of cars, and there wouldn't be much in the way of cheating controversy!

 

If they bring a trunk of cash, NASCAR would probably be let Kia into the show. I recently read an article that said Toyota has more clout in congress because they have factories in MORE states than the "Big 3", which has much of its manufacturing above and below the border.

 

Of course, but your not contributing anything. Ok, so you don't like NASCAR. We get it. You just don't have to keep posting the same useless posts over and over whenever the discussion of NASCAR or any other series you don't like comes up.

 

Jeff Gordon failed a post-race inspection today. Will have to start 42nd as a result of it.

 

Yep, Jeff's side skirts were too low or something like that. 42nd for him.

JPM is starting 36th.

 

I heard the entire car was 1" too low -- a problem with the shocks.

Which makes me wonder. Will they penalize the whole field and simply re-construct the grid after all the cars fail inspection?

 

Dont worry about hurting my feelings, venture up to "politics and religion".
Makes the skin thick.

I am somewhat aware of Ferraris history.

I race(d) Formula Mazdas.Vees and awhile back Atlantics.

Have never been to a NASCAR race but plan to.

In "Racing and Tracking" I believe all forms of motorsports are OK, but have to check the rules; dont want to cheat

 

I heard on PBS radio (even) that D Waltrip was caught using "rocket fuel" today.
It brings a happy tear to my eye seeing that there is still innovation left in America.

 

I think there is more to the Waltrip/Toyota story than is being let on.
I have a feeling that after the 500 'something' will happen with Michael in regards to his relationship with Toyota, BWDIK ?

 

If you want to buy a me a Ferrari, I'll be happy to put on my list.

 

NASCAR hasnt been NASCAR since 69 Daytona, 70 Superbirds, Boss429s and Hemis.