Boxer Clutch

Nice clutch, I found Steve good to deal with as well.

As for the drip, if its the pump yank the engine and do the service, now of course we would look after those things in a restoration.......wink wink .

 

Install a new waterpump seal. It can be done with the motor in the car.
I have done it and is not that bad of a job.

 

doesnt look fun though but thats nice to know if mine pops.

Thanks.

 

No, I don't take pictures of things like that. You need a new mechanic...you know ....the kind who says I can....not I can't.


Would you employ people like that at your company?


If he is a mechanic he can figure it out. If he can't ....he's not.

 

I may be wrong, but I don't see how it's possible to do water pump work on the Boxer (mines an '84 BBi) with the engine in. When I did my full engine rebuild earlier this year, I noticed the pump is covered by the LHS timing belt cover, which is impossible to remove with the engine in; thats why it has many holes to allow hose access.
If someone can tell me how to do this job, engine in, I would be interested.

 

Anything is possible I guess, like belts in-car on a 355 if you remove the fuel tanks, etc....It would depend on how much skin I left behind doing it in-car and if other items needed attention as well.

Mark, if you car leaks oil, and I bet it does, just pull the engine and make sure its right. If you keep the car it makes it reliable, if you sell it its a plus for resale.

 

Concerning the mechanic it depends how honest they are also concerning doing a job such as the wp seal, I had a local shop here who I asked when I first got my BB if they could adjust the values with the motor in the car and he insisted the motor had to come out to adjust the valves, they lost big credibility with me then.


They really messed up that clutch must have had a huge smoke cloud and smelled bad when they did it

 

You are wrong. I have done it. It is not that hard and as I said before would any of you hire a person that sits around like you and says "CAN"T".


I worked for the dealer that recieved an award from Ferrari for selling more Boxers than any other dealer world wide. We did a lot of things on them before people told us it can't be done.

It's a sure thing we didn't get as far in the world as we have with attitudes like yours.

 

Not the same. It's not a big deal.


Timing belts can be done too but that is too much trouble. One of the objectives is to leave the car in such a way as no one can tell you were there and that is tough with an in the car timing belt change on a BB.


I'd never even consider doing something that dumb on a 355.

 

You need to get off your high horse. I dont care if you blew enzo or if you are a magician with ferraris, you dont have to be an ****** as well. You can simply help in a constructive manner which im sure people would apprieciate moreso.

 

it is so easy to yank out a bb carbed motor... 3-4 hours at the most. the headers come off, a few lines...

since the bell and exhaust is already out...very very easy...

b4 he puts the clutch in, have him yank it out.

if it is the big hose that comes out of the water pump that is leaking, you can tighten it...i had the car here with no leaks of prestone.never saw a drop of prestone below the car...so how does it start leaking when it is there ?

be sure it is that ....maybe something else.

 

According to the 512BBi Factory Service times book you can do the timing belts with the engine in the car.It shows the total labor of 8 hours. It shows the labor time of 1 hour to remove the RH cover and 3 hours to do the left.It looks like it can be done. The left side is probably more time since you have to remove the oil tank.

 

I got caught in stop-and-go (mostly stop) traffic on hill in October and on one move forward I kinda let the RPMs get a bit too high and I was rewarded with a puff of white smoke from the rear. There doesn't appear to be any real slip now, however.

The clutch will be inspected when the major starts (real soon now!) but assuming the worst, any advice? If I need a new clutch should I go stock? Stock plus? Kevlar?

 

A boxer owner here went with a kevlar clutch, not sure who. Kevlar is known to be grabby unlike a stock type material which would concern me. I would want feedback from whoever has gone this route before buying one myself.

 

just for the record: pierre my in house mechanic,who has decent ferrari knowledge has done a few bb services for me in the past.
it takes him 3 hours to yank out the motor....you are already 1/2 way.... the headers,mounts,wiring and shifter and it is out. !

or, lets look at a parts book and see exactly what hose is leaking..maybe it can be replaced while engine is in...

 

I have done some testing on the replacement seals and the original seals. The replacement seals are a real problem right now and you must do some modifications and pressure tests on the pumps to make sure they will not leak in the future. What a PAIN>>>