Well, some do, some dont. I know 3 Miura SVs (even without checking) that are still with their FIRST owner who got the car new in 1971 or 1972. One guy told me he was at the factory in Sant Agata at the end of a European holiday to inspect and complete payment on his brand new (silver) Miura SV before a truck arrived to ship it home. The truck never showed so he hopped in the new car and drove it straight home - to Madrid! As he was an ex-Porsche works racing driver, he says he drove it as fast as it would go :-0 He still has the car today at age seventy-something. I also know a few cars that have already or are in the process of being inherited by the son after having been owned by dad for 20-odd years so they will stay in the same family yet still for a long time, in fact I can think of at least one F-Chatter who will inherit an SV. Then too, in the last few years Ive noticed that the typical SV buyer is much more affluent, has many cars in a collection and will likely not need to sell unless he tires of it. Unlike some SV owners (such as yours truly, LOL) I can think of at least two USA cars in car collections worth $20 million and $40 million respectively. This is all quite different from 10 years ago and it is starting to be reflected in current values. Joe
Joe, While browsing in my photo collection I found this one: the surround of the headlights are in 2 pieces like in 4758. I think that it was a unique to the proto SV? An early SV somewhere in beetween or?? Philippe Image Unavailable, Please Login
Front wheel diameter and track width seem off on that car, presumably the angle the picture was taken?
Alberto is right, and I should point out that as it is well known to me, this car is actually a 'converted' Miura S. By the way the applied two-peice headlight surround trim you speak of was not unique to 4758, but in fact is present on the first 15-odd Miura SVs. It was abandoned after that in favor of the smooth sculpted finish. Hey Alberto, go over and see those amazing carburettor velocity trumpets Bobileff had made that I showed a few posts ago. Carlo tells me they work out to be $3,400 a set! :-0 They must be made of gold. Joe
Joe: I'll be going to the shop next weekend to take detail pictures of the Zinc car before they do anything to it. I'll look at the trumpets then, but unless I can put them in my pocket without anyone noticing, I'm not going to take them home at that price. White gold just doesn't look on the Miura. Will your car still be there for its nip and tuck? I'll take a look at it then too if it is. Alberto
LOL. Very good. I am buying them but only under protest.... No I will mount the velocity trumpets in my own garage at home on 4884's Webers. I try to keep my cars away from the shop if at all possible and do all the small stuff that I can myself. BTW the ZN 75's restoration will not start till late August. Joe
Finally, the long-overdue site, victim of my own perfectionist tendencies, is alive. Hope it is both useful & entertaining. Joe www.JoeSackey.com
First, Love your site. Great pictures. Question. why use rivets on the Jota? I can understand the vents by the wheels, but around the window area? I kind of like the look, but don't know the purpose. Thanks Juice
The original car was built using a damaged Miura as donor. The centre section was cut off the chassis and Bob (and his team which included Pietro Andreoli) made the new chassis to fit. He also made the new frames for front and rear shrouds. The doors were aluminium (they were certainly obsessed with weight reduction but the original steel doors are seriously heavy, and thats before electric window motors go in!). Remember the Jota was put together on a limited budget at the factory out of hours and Miura bodyshells were made outside and delivered by Bertone so panel availability would have been limited. So they took the skins off the donor car to re-use. These are normally attached by folding the oversize edge over the frame surround. The folds would have been cut/ground or fractured on removal and so after panel re-profiling front and rear (which Bob says he did himself!!) these would have been rivetted to the new frames as the easiest way to re-attach. Bonding was not really an option. Rivets on the roof were to tie it down to the new monocoque top sections. Image Unavailable, Please Login
Piet, Good go have you chiming in on this subject thats especially dear to you. I will say that the few times ive spoken to Bob on what happened, the story varies a little, but in his defence it was a long time ago and pehaps new details are recalled with subsequent conversations. However, someone with a sharp memory who has been very consistent in corroborating the details to me is Bob's former factory understudy Claudio Zampolli. From what I can gather, Bob actually sent the chassis back up the road to Marchesi (who made them all in the first place) with special instructions on what he wanted with regards to cutting, lightening and strengthening. Back at the factory, Bob and his team made further small mods to accept the front & rear shells. But the bulk of the chassis work was done by Marchesi. Then too, I have gathered that the bodywork was in fact done by Marchesini whom Wallace brought in from Modena. Remember that Marchesini was shop foreman of the by-then defunct Carrozzeria Sports Cars in Modena (Pietro Drogo), and almost all of his work involved the construction of competition sports cars such as the famed 330P and 412P Ferraris, extensively using.....rivets. The use of rivets was the received wisdom for lightweight chassis & body bonding in those days. Zampolli confirms that Marchesini actually set up shop in a corner inside the factory's experimental department (Reparto Esperienze). You are right in that the Jota was really a fabricated-on-the-fly car in the true experimental sense. This was no prototype poseur but a raw test machine. Here is the only picture I have ever seen with both Bob Wallace and his charge in the same frame. Call it "The Beast & its Master" if you like....an accidental image that Franco Zagari happened to innocently capture as Bob exited the experimental department door just as he took the picture. Ah, history. Joe www.JoeSackey.com Image Unavailable, Please Login
I think youre referring to Hubert Hahne's own Jota-modified SV, chassis number 4860 finished in Argento Indianapolis. I spoke personally to Hubert Hahne recently about this Jota-modified SV and the other Jota-modified SVs. He assures me it was all done in the spirit of the one-and-only original car and the rivets on these cars were purely cosmetic - for the pseudo competition car look. I had contacted him to weigh in on the erroneous theory that these cars had special or different engines but he also affirmed (as I had already ascertained with other such cars) that their mechanicals were basically standard SV with an open exhaust. Where rivets were used on SVs by the works, aesthetics was the only purpose they served. Joe www.JoeSackey.com Image Unavailable, Please Login
I think the most difficult thing for Piet was to make his car not too perfect and clean, the car from Piet looks really unbelievable, the wheels, interior, small details, nobody can find any difference GREAT JOB!! (but very expensive..)
Such aBEAUTIFUL spring day here in Seattle, rare no rain and 60 degrees... Just had to take the "S" out...drives PERFFFFFFFFFFFFEEEEEEEEEEEEEECCCCCCCCCCCTTTTTT As always. Image Unavailable, Please Login Image Unavailable, Please Login Image Unavailable, Please Login Image Unavailable, Please Login Image Unavailable, Please Login
I have a question about the Jota replica that has been made a couple of years ago as you guys probably know. Do you have any idea how similar this car is to the original Jota? How identical is the exterior and interior and the engine? Has anyone in here seen it in person or talked with those people who made it? Image Unavailable, Please Login
But of course, SINCE it is a "company" car I want to make sure when the IRS comes and sees it that we use it for "advertising"!! Pell on and off door stickers LOL LOL
Just finished reading the article. Thanks to Mick Walsh for immortalizing our car. One of my sons is so proud he is taking the magazine to school tomorrow (there's no hope for him...) to show freinds. The article summarises: "Every serious collector should have one center-stage in his dream garage" Well since more than 762 collectors likely want one, it seems to me that they are going to remain slightly desireable, dont you think? Joe www.JoeSackey.com
See Countach thread. Youre keeping it long-term (thats an order). Imagine driving it to Carmel in your retirement... Joe www.JoeSackey.com
Sorry about that...the proper person to do that would be the car's owner Piet himself. I can only judge from images, and this car appears much more refined/nicer than Wallace's original ever was. There are some visual differences Ive noted, but without the original being available to faithfully copy, I think Piet did an excellent job with this car. Either the car's owner himself or someone associated with it would be best placed to weigh in with meaningful comments. Joe www.JoeSackey.com
In a single answer to the e-mails & PMs, chassis number 5080 IS indeed for sale, IS located at www.bobileff.com, YES I have personally driven it (hard), and YES is now goes like stink! Joe www.JoeSackey.com Image Unavailable, Please Login