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  1. darkalley

    darkalley Formula Junior

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    Seems like everybody knows somebody who can make me a website for my small business but prices are all over the place..... I want something as sharp and "business like" as this
    http://www.ninthhouse.com/philosophy/index.html

    but my website will be about 16 pages total. I will be provoding zero services through the site so there is no complex backend needed.
     
  2. fcman

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    I'll do it for around $5k...
     
  3. darkalley

    darkalley Formula Junior

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    what happend to I'll do it for $500 and some beer. Aren't you in college?
     
  4. rollsorferrari?

    rollsorferrari? F1 Veteran

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    the going rate for me is 50 bucks and a case of anything higher than keystone. :D
     
  5. ChunkyMonkey

    ChunkyMonkey Formula 3

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    Have you looked into different sitebuilders? I've seen some that do great work, that walk you through the whole process....What kind of products?
     
  6. ChunkyMonkey

    ChunkyMonkey Formula 3

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    double post....
     
  7. Webby

    Webby F1 Veteran

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    Check your pms... pretty simple design, similar to one I've made. I'll do it for you cheap
     
  8. WJHMH

    WJHMH Two Time F1 World Champ
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    I have iweb that makes some complex site building fairly simple, the last site I paid for was more of a trade for auto body repair. I'm sure you can find someone to barter with for the services you need.

    The only problem is I haven't finished my site yet, it's still a work in progress.
    :rolleyes:
     
  9. fcman

    fcman Formula Junior

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    Yeah I'm at Ga Tech for Computational Media (web/game design)

    But I've been doing web design for nearly 6 years now and I'm about to move to Florida to work full-time with a web design and consulting firm.

    I was just kidding about the $5k thing though :D
     
  10. Choptop

    Choptop F1 Rookie

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    figure you are going to pay the hourly rate same as you would for any other talented professional. That can vary.... figure bottom of about $50/hour up to $200/hour.

    many other factors:

    do you have a logo? or do you need an entire corporate identity?

    the site you linked to has videos... will you be doing the same?

    do you need the videos produced, or do you have them finished already?

    at first blush the website you linked to has no interactive features, its basically an online "3 fold brochure" with perhaps a "contact us" form. given that...no video to digitize (real time process), and no logo creation, and only 16 pages?....

    I'd estimate about 16-24 hours to create the site. At my personal rate of $125/hour thats $2000-3000.


    things to look for:

    does the designer even mention accessability issues

    is there any sort of template used, something that allows you as the owner to update pages without any further fees (ala Macromedia Contribute). Is the site made with all graphics or CSS (allowing easier, faster, cheaper changes)

    does the designer offer you the source code (you are paying for it after all)
     
  11. Buzz48317

    Buzz48317 F1 Rookie

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    All I can tell you is that these prices are a bargain compared to what I paid for our site 4 years ago. Mine may have been marginally more difficult as it has flash animation, music, constant updating of the site, etc, etc.
     
  12. Slim

    Slim Formula 3

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    It depends on what you want.

    The sort of thing people get when they use frontpage themselves or have their nephew or some other young kid do it? $500 max. Or free if you convince someone it'll be good to have in their portfolio. Some sucker will fall for this. For some businesses, this is all you really need.

    Do you just want a website that looks attractive to you personally, in your favorite colors, and organized in a way that you or the designer happen to like?

    All this requires is a person who understands color, typography, has a decent eye, some understanding of usability standards, and the ability to use one of those what-you-see-is-what-you-get software programs (dreamweaver, for example). That will cost more because it at least requires some sort of specialized talent and a decent eye and these people are rarer than nephew computer geeks are. $1000 to $2000?

    Or... do you want a website built by someone who does all the above but also takes the time to research your business and its prospective clients and designs a site that is tailored to attract the particular people you are looking for, make them trust you, is usable by them at their particular computer skill level, has text that has been specially edited and presented in the way that people actually read online (e.g. more scanning than "reading") and all the other factors taken into account by real, professional web designers?

    That's what you have to pay for. And if actually need your website to work for you, it's worth it. Sometimes, you can find a really pro guy who can handle this kind of a project, but is starving because so few people "get it" and then you can get the pro website for the $1000 to $2000 price. But don't be afraid to spend money to make money.

    I was once that guy. Not anymore. I now do something completely different and usually only do web projects for people that are former clients.
     
  13. bonedoc

    bonedoc Karting

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    I think I saw this site as a template. It cost $65 for the template, and then you plug your info into it. If this is the case, it would probably just take you a couple of days. Here is mine, if you want to check it out:

    http://mydigitalclinic.com
     
  14. LetsJet

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    Are you saying your flash site was a template for $60?
     
  15. anunakki

    anunakki Seven Time F1 World Champ
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    Mine is more complicated and includes a shopping cart but here it is for reference www.sotatoys.com cost was just under $9k
     
  16. CMY

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    I really don't want to do a sales pitch here but there are a few things I'd like to point out:

    1. The days of having a 'friend of a friend' make you a website are just about over. Google is a multi-billion dollar corporation because this isn't amateur hour anymore- the people behind your site should be qualified and knowledgeable about marketing your territory on the web.

    2. You really shouldn't have to have any coding knowledge (or specialized programs) anymore. We build sites with back-ends that isolate the pages you want to update and make it easy to do so (through the web itself). It doesn't have to be complex to keep content (king) fresh.

    3. I've got 120+ people you can call when something is wrong (and it's usually user error.. but that's ok too!), when you want to update your page, change emails or you want to add a feature to it. I get about 20 inquiry phone calls a week dealing with people who can't find the person that originally created their site or want to know why they aren't found through search engines. In most cases they are SOL as far as I'm concerned.. if you build a site with us you're going to get the support (and answers) as long as you choose to have us responsible for it.

    4. PLEASE do away with the notion that some flashy (pun intended) site will get you business. Potential clients/leads want something that gives them a good, quick-loading and easy to interpret impression within the first 10-20 seconds. After that you want the navigation to be intuitive and the information easy to find. Lastly, they should be able to contact you on each page without much difficulty.

    Anyways.. I'm off my soapbox. If someone wants to talk about this in more detail please feel free to PM me.
     
  17. ashsimmonds

    ashsimmonds F1 World Champ

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    +1

    give me content. the end.

    i'll buy stuff off a guy who just wrote a page of text and renamed it .html if he sounds like he really really knows what he's talking about.

    stock photos of a caucasian and an asian and a black guy looking over an old guys shoulder at a computer screen with an approving look on their face DO NOTHING (for me).

    if your site is absolutely static and simple as you say, get one of the yung'uns here who need to build their portfolio do it for you on the cheap. if your site is truly a "porfolio builder" it will be in their best interest to maintain it for at least another year or so, or you can pay them a basic maintenance fee, say 20% of total cost, to guarantee they'll keep it to your standard with various updates for the next year or 2.

    otherwise go for a proper dev company (like CMY) or a lone mercenary pro (like me :p ) and be prepared to pay.

    good, fast, cheap. any two. :cool:
     
  18. enjoythemusic

    enjoythemusic F1 World Champ

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    +1

    Also, know who you are mainly targeting and make adjustments accordingly. Obviously a website for cutting-edge video gamers would be far different from a site targeting Mutual Fund investors.
     
  19. TheBigEasy

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    Microsoft Frontpage is very easy to use also.....
     
  20. nsxnick

    nsxnick Formula 3

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    Joomla!

    it's free... it's easy.... looks professional.

    here's a simple demo... http://demo.joomla.org/demo10/



    avoid Frontpage, it's difficult to make a professional looking site with it.
     
  21. Choptop

    Choptop F1 Rookie

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    ding, ding, ding.
     
  22. bonedoc

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    Yes, my site was a flash template I paid 60 for...and I personalized it to my company.
     
  23. LetsJet

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    Where did you get the template?
     
  24. SRT Mike

    SRT Mike Two Time F1 World Champ

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    Speeeakkkking of web stuff....

    I was talking to a friend (and customer) of mine today. He has a website that sells motorcycle parts. His "web guy" has been slow as crap. He occasionally (couple times a month) call his web guy and ask for a price to be updated, a new pic to be put on the site ,etc. Guy is slow as molasses sometimes taking 2 months to do it.

    He's looking for someone to redo the site. He has exclusive import agreements with a few manufacturers and they give him branding info so he has an existing brand (so hes not looking for someone to create a 'corporate image'). Basically he wants his site re-done, re-organized. Its not any back-end stuff, no shop cart needed, he just wants graphical pages not even any flash I don't think.

    Who'se interested in talking to him? He's a super nice guy - he's a great salesman and I am sure he knows what he wants, just doesnt have the skills to get it done. Its gotta be someone who is no BS, no messin' around and false dates - he's very cool and reasonable but needs someone who'se a do-er to get it DONE, not a talker.

    Webby, wanna talk to him? Others?
     
  25. Webby

    Webby F1 Veteran

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    I'd love to! You can PM me his info or just tell him to email me (Andrew Weber, aweber7 at nd.edu). Can you give us the link to his current website?
     

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