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some iphone info....

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  1. Parikh1234

    Parikh1234 F1 Rookie
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    phone is sealed. You CANNOT replace battery or SIM card. Totally blows. Get a crackberry instead;)
     
  2. Simba

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    It's GSM anyway, so as cool as it is, it's useless for people who like fast data, good coverage, and cheap plans. :p

    I'll stick with my Treo.
     
  3. Parikh1234

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    you need to use a 3G phone my friend. Even EDGE is pretty good. I use it all the time to browse on my laptop when im not in an area where I can get wifi. EVDO is ok, but not available everywhere. Only good in the US.
     
  4. Simba

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    Yeah, but if you can't swap sims, the international appeal of the iPhone is dead anyway.

    The CDMA2000 networks are much better from a technological standpoint. Several friends of mine work in the industry, so I've considerably more insight into how tower code and cells work than I ever wanted. :p

    I get 5-600k/sec on my CDMA Treo out in the sticks, which is several times what most people I know in the same area with Cingular, et al get. Unless you're close to a cell that has very little load on it, GSM gets pretty pokey given the way they allocate and use frequency bandwidth.

    Anyway, the iPhone had a lot of issues to overcome from the get go, given that Cigular forced Apple into making it a closed system. For the price, I doubt many people will get it without third party app support, and the closed sim seems like the final nail.
     
  5. Parikh1234

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    You dont need to swap sims if you want to pay an arm and a leg for service overseas and keep the same number. Details are sketchy but there has to be an access door somewhere. Im sure someone will find a way to swap SIMs.

    I agree that CDMA is the better technology right now but GSM is more widespread and actually will develop faster in the future. Lack of development and costs will kill CDMA. If that doesnt, the lack of being able to use phones with different carries will kill CDMA, its just not flexible enough for today's world. If only the US and korea would stop being so stubborn and switch over to GSM we would all be happy...or you can just get rid of qualcomm and kill the problem at its source;)
     
  6. Simba

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    Well, no. There's not enough spectrum available to turn over all the CDMA networks to GSM. We'd end up paying even more than current GSM offerings with nasty service. Even the 3G networks aren't that scalable, which is why they took so long to roll out their 3G while CDMA2k has been lit up for years, and the rollout was very painless.

    Btw, you forgot Japan. ;)

    Seeing as the GSM consortium licensed the WCDMA format to make GSM 3G work, which replaced the previously horrible TDMA air interface, I'd say getting rid of qualcomm would be especially bad if you want your GSM provider's tower code to keep working. :)
     
  7. racerx3317

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    Man, that's that bullsh**. I was thinking of getting one, now i'll probably go with the treo
     
  8. Townshend

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    iPhone is nothing but a novelty item. No practicality in the real world IMHO. I'd much rather have my Pocket PC or BlackBerry over this..
     
  9. A4tooS4

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    bb 8800 FTW!
     
  10. noahlh

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    Predictions:

    1. The "seal" will be broken in a matter of months. The average Joe may not be able to replace those things, but the nerds will find a way. I promise you.

    2. The O/S "lockdown" will be cracked in a matter of weeks/months, and there will be a strong, growing, active community of developers who create some pretty damn cool apps for the phone.

    3. Apple will release a software update very quickly that will allow the phone to use Cingular's high(er) speed data.

    Remember -- the iPhone will be more than what the package says it is when it's released -- it's a working OSX computer. I think not only is it not a gimmick, but it's going to be one of the best tech accessories released to date. The possibilities are endless.

    But what the heck do I know....I never thought people would pay for ringtones...

    nlh
     
  11. Parikh1234

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    http://www.ferrarichat.com/forum/showpost.php?p=136506281&postcount=10

    I agree with all of the above. Eventually it will be cracked, but for the lazy it sucks:)
     
  12. Parikh1234

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    Def agree, especially for the price. I can get a bberry with a microSD card for much cheaper.

    Yeah forgot Japan. Good call. Getting rid of qualcomm might be bad in the short run, but im not a fan of monopolies;) I say out the door with qualcomm, open up the technology so other people can innovate!

    Blackberry not treo!

    dork, no one understands FTW on FerrariChat. Maybe Noah (see above post:)), but no one else.
     
  13. G-Gore

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    I'm gonna stick with HTC and their Windows Mobile phones. T-Mo is getting new designes sometime this year which will run on 400MHz CPUs and be compatible with 3G already. Add 4 GB memory stick and you have fun :)

    BTW: lack of keyboard in iPhone with kill all text-messaging. Many young ppl won't buy it just because of it.
     
  14. Opie

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    You can change the SIM card.
    It's a GSM phone - that's part of the spec of the device.
    Also, every review of the iPhone has talked about the slot available to insert your SIM card since there is no user replacable battery for it to go under.
     
  15. A4tooS4

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    YAY...Apple has no problems with battery life.
    Add this to the class action.
     
  16. A4tooS4

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    For The Win.

    Blackberry wins the battle battle between Iphone and BB.
     
  17. Opie

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    Why?
    Newer ploymer batteries last a significant ammount of time between replacement cycles and there has been no class action suit for the iPod's non user replacable battery other than the defective ones a few years back.

    Frankly, I'd buy the iPhone if it were out today.
    I have a Sony Ericsson K790a($400) and a 60GB iPod. If I could combine them both and flip them on ebay, I would do it in a heartbeat.
     
  18. Parikh1234

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    obviously you dont a recent ipod;) Imagine a F430 where the gas tank slowly gets smaller so after a year you cant drive the car anymore.
     
  19. Opie

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    I have a 60GB Video iPod so I know what you mean.

    I understand that the battery capacity gets slightly smaller after every cycle but there are ways to manage that.
    Keep in mind that the device would look quite different if the battery were replacable.

    I am not defending the design compromises - I am just saying it's not as bad as it is usually made out to be.
     
  20. Simba

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    How is qualcomm a monopoly? They developed a better technology, which ended up being cheaper to deploy and manage, with better spectrum use. That's why the large carriers deployed it, not because someone stuck a gun to their head.

    You'd probably see a lot more CDMA usage in western europe, as well, if the EU hadn't made it illegal to deploy anything other than a GSM network.
     
  21. Parikh1234

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    its like microsoft, they had the more wide spread product and now its everywhere. I would consider MS a monopoly.
     
  22. martyb

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    I am not real knowlegable in phone networks but I have heard a 3G version of the Iphone will be right behind the first one. FWIW
     
  23. Simba

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    I would consider some of what Microsoft does (and a lot of what they used to do) a monopoly, in that they practice unfair business so far as hardware OEMs, Internet Explorer and the like go.

    Qualcomm doesn't do anything like that. The FCC, unlike Europe, does not mandate the type of cell system that can run in the country. They just say: Here's your frequency spectrum license, do what you want with it. Nobody is forcing Verizon and Sprint to use CDMA-- as I said, they just do so because it's a better system.

    If anything, interfering with Qualcomm would give GSM providers an unfair monopoly on cell spectrum usage, not the other way around.
     
  24. SSNISTR

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    I've had my for a week, love it....works great...so much nicer then my POS Treo.
     
  25. Opie

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    So who's gonna give me some iPhone lovin'? :D
     

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