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Discussion in 'Canada' started by stax, May 23, 2005.

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  1. Prancing 12

    Prancing 12 F1 Rookie Silver Subscribed

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    I have a tough time believing that there are 800 F355s in Canada. 800 cars/5 year production run = 160 cars per year. I say no way!

    I would think the numbers are closer to 60 cars per year (20 cars/dealer), except in '99 (obviously fewer cars)... I would think the overall Canadian F355 total is somewhere in the 250 range. Then if you start assuming 40% are nice cars, you have 100 nice examples in Canada. With the F355 owners being especially loyal to their cars, maybe only a couple of these cars come to market at anytime = still high prices!
     
  2. 355

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    They are only high prices if you are looking to buy and cant afford it. When I was at the Auto show last week. I noticed that the top half of BMWs were all well over $100 thou. They were not 2 years ago. The Jags have also pushed their prices into the 120 plus range where 4 years ago you could grab a vanden for 80. I look at those cars (and there are more examples) and ask myself. Would I trade straight for one of those and the answer is a huge NO. Im sure that many in here that think a 355 will be going for 60 or 70 thou soon are only dreaming of owning one. My God a simple Ford F150 pick up is going for around $40 now with taxes in. Like I said. If you are looking to buy (not dreaming)a 355 and if you can find a fine example of a 355 then buy it. IF you start looking now in the Toronto area you might find it buy the end of the summer or maybe next year. I can find 328s all over the place. Not even in the same class as a 355 but yes they are cheaper. I remember when they couldn't give away a 246 dino now people are spending around 60 to 70 and then another 90 to 100 to restore it.
     
  3. Ronald Steinhoff

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    Wow, this innocent thread has really turned into quite the debate. Again, I think you're missing the point of this thread by saying "They are only high prices if you are looking to buy and cant afford it." I can afford it. Everyone who has participated in this thread either owns a 355/348/whatever or can afford one.

    What we're discussing here is the fact that Canadian prices are artifically high. It goes without saying that we all desire the car, and we'd take it in a heartbeat, but there's a point where you have to reconcile in your mind the fact that price does not equate to value. Yes, it's a F-car. Yes, it's not just a "normal car." But asking the prices we see in Canada for a '95 355 just doesn't compute. Even tho I desire one greatly, the difference between what the cars are going for and what I think they're worth exceed my level of desire, and more importantly, the marginal satisfaction I think owning the car would bring to my life.

    I want a 355 more than a 360. With the exception of the obvious performance differences between the 355/360, the 355 is a superior car in every way (in my mind). But considering the pricing out there the 360s just make more sense.
     
  4. ClassicFerrari

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    See College St./Woodabridge flame war in Ontario thread.

    C'mon, lets keep these threads on topic LOL.
     
  5. ClassicFerrari

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    Seriously Luca, who the hell is gonna go up there by train? You got the little punks going to Colossus perhaps but that is another story. Let them go.
     
  6. starboy444

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    Probably will be commuters going to the downtown core and back, that's what its being built for.
    BTW, only joking about the "college st. scammers"! Just a little fun...
     
  7. 72GMC

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    A 2-year old Acura makes even more sense than 360. But making sense is NOT the point of this exercise.

    You want a 355, so get a 355.

    Forget potential market dips that may or may not occur when the border opens up to more 355's. The 355 is not yet an investment cars. Neither is the 360, the way it's dropping in price.

    Forget the 360, you're not in love with it.

    If you absolutely have to get the F1 tranny, there's a big premium to pay. If you like to shift the old-fashioned way, then you can get into a 355 for quite a bit less. (I apologize if you have a bum left leg)

    For a 355 $109,000 may be the best deal in Canada. I'll bet it's sold by spring.
     
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    What is this ****? I thought this was FerrariChat.
     
  11. Razzer92

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    This thread should of been in the off topic part but ohh well...

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  12. MS250

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    funny how you comment on this period when you were a young kid at the time at best .
    S0 f40s selling in early late 80s early 90s for 1M was because they were in the dumps with F1? What owners did you know back in 89 ? please dont give me your dad's freinds stories, cause then i gotta go my grandfather had lunch with Musolini story.
    BTW you said the exact same thing i did ;)
     
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    I just dont get it guys. If you want the damn car then buy it. The above 96 spyder 4 years ago was selling for $160,000+. Just what is a good price? If you want to enjoy a great car then buy it because you are only getting older and so is the car. Remember that you can look at 10 355s in 2 years and maybe just maybe 1 of them might be the right one. Some say that Canadian prices are artifically high. Just who is doing this artifical pricing anyway? Its all about supply and demand. There are fewer cars in Canada thus the higher price. Its very simple. By the way when was the last time you checked out a used 360? The price is higher than you think.
     
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    Come on...the F40 is a special case, its a special car. Those who could afford one would 've bought one regardless of the economic times.

    Listen, when you live in Woodbridge and out of 20 houses on your street, 12 have Ferrari's, you notice who has what year and model, and being a "kid" :( who still knew alot about Ferrari's back then, (and also an F in the family garage) I knew what was being bought and sold.

    All I know is family friends and neighbours breathed a big sigh of relief and dumped their 348's like an old TV as soon as the 355 came out.

    And yes, I did agree with you!
     
  15. MS250

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    And 355s were dumped for the 360, and the 360 right now getting dumped for the 430....

    For the record in 1989 woodbridge was on septic tank....there was nothing north of hwy 7 my friend...lol !! and klienberg wasnt even regist yet ...lol ....ahhhh the good old days when you dialed a telephone number and you didnt have to use the area code first....i miss those days.

    As for the 96 spider for sale at $109.000 in Vancouver, if that checks out, a clean car, thats the correct price for a 355 spider.
     
  16. MS250

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    The two of you sound like a married couple. Wow !!

    Cant you both just get along..:p
     
  17. Rock

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    Canada is a small market, and when the serious ferrari's come up for sale they end up in the states. There seems to be a limit of about 100 grand and under for most cdn. buyers ( average guy ). We have lost may special cars to the americans. 308 to 430's are not considered true collector cars as of yet and may never be. But when people (americans) are paying stupid money for muscle cars with leaf springs and testarossa are cheap (relatively speaking) what are you waiting for.........BUY, the ferrari you want or love.
    f-40 for me.
     
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    wow I hit 90 posts
     
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    355's are great cars but a canadian spec 355 is a dud. We are the only country in the world that has these strictest saftey laws. You can buy an f40 in India, but not here(when new). An example, a canadian 512 tr doesn't seem or feel faster than an early non cat tesatrossa. Why? How about 300-400lbs less weight. So you can keep the canadian spec cars beause a ferrari is about performance and not prancing around on yorkville.
     
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    Whats so dud about a canadina 355 lol?
     
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    We are short changed here in Canada. Horsepower has fallen of the boat and weight has been added. That's not a good combo. All north american spec cars are dud's compared to the standard spec car (euro). Euro 355's have a beautiful three spoke steering wheel and not one from a ford taurus. The Ferrari engineers much have knots in there stomachs when the have to redesign the car for Canada. Try picking up a cdn spec 355 bumper, you'll need two people.
     
  22. MS250

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    whats a canadina ? she HOT ? :D
     
  23. Rock

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    thats a type of beer, you use your teeth to open the bottle
     
  24. MS250

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    They have twist tops now....lol !!
     
  25. Rock

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    Back to the issue of the 15 year and older rule. I will wait for a eurospec 355 . In other words an original canandian car in number one condition is not worth as much as a european version in the same condition..........to me at least.
     

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