GALLARDO HP

Doubtful you'd gain 55 HP from cat delete and air box.

 

Not happening. You might get 25hp, but a safe bet is 20hp from exhaust and intake/airbox. However, in doing so, you will also achieve the benefit of shedding about 50 pounds from the car (stock exhaust is heavy). And as for the ECU, I have never seen a proven ECU program for the Gallardo. There are companies out there that claim to produce results, but none of them have ever done back-to-back dyno testing to prove it. I'd stay away from the ECU mods on the Gallardo, but exhaust and intake are nice. Also, there is some indication that boring out the throttle body will yield some additional horsepower, particularly when used in conjuction with an aftermarket airbox and exhaust.

 

think they are pulling your chain.

 

Ditto on the chain-yanking. I'd be willing to be the power gains from exhaust changes are nearly nil. No one can reflash these cars that I know of.

 

PS, cat delete has a hight likelihood of triggering check engine light - I do not know what people do emulate the secondary O2 sensor

 

They are BS'ing you on both accounts.

- Exhaust & Airbox might be lucky to get 20hp (mostly due to cat elimination)
- ECU will result in nothing, and possibly do more harm than good

I am sure there is someone out there that has the capability to tweek the ECU for positive gains, but I haven't seen any proven products. I'd steer clear of any Gallardo ECU products.

 

Ask him if he will give all you money back if before and after dynos at a neutral lcation do not prove out his claims. Ask hiim to put it in writing.

 

I did a cat delete and dyno checked before and after, think we netted 5 or 6 hp, no increase really. But the sound and the fury, when you hit the gas, will make you think you gained a 100hp. The gallardo cats also have a reputation for disintegrating and ruining engines. Get rid of them.

 

If that happens, then, the manufacturer will be on the hook to repair and replace any damages because federal law requires the cats to function properly for 8 years or 80,000 miles.

 

Veloce Performance has an ECU mod for the Gallardo (also for the Diablo and Murci). There is a noticable improvement in drivability, the car just seem so much better to drive, particularly the mid-range punch. Combined with a good sport exhaust, you will see a noticable change in the cars performance. Remember, most manufacturers 'sign-off' of an ecu spec somewhere in the 'mid-range', this way they avoid any legal issues involving reliability and drivability. There is a reason why companies such as Renntech, Brabus etc exist. Most modern cars can be improved beyond the factory settings. My new Murci is booked in to have it's ECU tuned next week....will let you know how it goes ( I should see about a 45hp, 80ft/lb gain...)

ps. VP's tunes seem to be about 2/3 the average cost of the same product from Renntech, Dinan etc. Eurobahn charges $4000 for a Gallardo, VP charged $2800...

 

You doing an LP or a Murci? What Year are you doing?

 

Dino is the man. If someone can get max gains out of the ECU its him. Fast Fiat is right about the driveability. You get more out of the gains than just gains. Throttle response is better and mid range is more powerful. The price he charges is fair considering the market. Although the flash for early Diablos requires sending to Germany and a week turnaround. For you luck Gallardo owners its an hour and you are experiencing true horsepower bliss.

 

..it's an 03 Murci that I am getting done. Not sure if they can do the LP as yet. My guess is they can. All software is written in Stuttgart, Germany. Very happy with the results. Pushed a friends Bentley GT to over 610 HP...and a similar increase in torque. Let me tell you....that is ONE FAST CAR....!!! My neighbor had his BMW M3 and SL55 AMG done.....also pretty impressive difference....especially the SL. I don't understand why the manufacturers hold back from allowing the customer the full performance that is available from the engines they design. I guess they must be getting a kickback from the tuners....! Another friend in Europe has a new Brabus CL65....apparantly it is quicker than anything else on the Autobahn (well....other than a Bugatti Veyron I suppose...). For the first time in 20 years he admits to being scared by a car he owns...!!

 

dont be an idiot.
manufacturers need the cars they sell to pass all sorts of noise and emissions testing, let alone reliability issues.
if u really think theyre getting kickbacks from the tuning firms then frankly you must be on drugs


the simple fact is that very few tuner claims come anywhere near the truth.
you might gain a few ponies but not nearly as many as the tuners claim and the real worry is at what expense, whats likely to go wrong (and with a voided warranty)

 

The manufactures detune the cars because the average joe cant handle the cars in their fullest potential. And, Chaos is also correct about emissions and noise.

 

Don't forget that your 20HP is to your crank, god knows how much of it will actually transfer to your wheels.

 

Conspiracy!

 

ecu tuning...here we go again...has there been real dyno proof, not guesstimates, not wishful thinking.... ???

 

why not take the car to a dyno - before and after.... end all arguments

 

The guys at Veloce use a dyno. I think there gains are real. They claim 40-45 more hp. But not just raw hp, useable hp. Using a different fuel map, you can get better throttle response than with the stock mapping. Since 40-45 is at the crank, expect 20 % less at the wheels.

 

(quote: I guess they must be getting a kickback from the tuners....! :unquote)

Uh...Chaos. That was actually meant as a JOKE...! No wonder most of the UK think the Welsh are a complete pain in the a*se... Your post just reinforces that opinion. Why don't you go and burn down an Englishmans summer cottage (insiders UK joke...) instead of being so muttonheaded on the internet.

Suderia980. I suppose that all the big name tuning companies like Renntech, Brabus, Eurobahn etc are selling 'blue sky'...?

ps. The Murci is an 03, so I don't HAVE a warranty! Besides, none of the limitations from the manufacturer are exceeded with any VP tune. Regardless of the actual HP gain, the 'drivability' of the car is where the real advantage is realised. The Gallardo was a much nicer and quicker car to drive after the tune. If you are a sceptic, then.....don't bother having your car tuned. Simple really.

 

Wouldn't it be just as simple for the ECU tuners to do the following?:

1. Base dyno on stock car
2. Reprogram ECU
3. New dyno on modded car

Yet, nobody has done this. Why?

As for the Conti GT ECU tune, that's completely different. Forced induction is a relatively easy tune. If those guys can show a 40hp gain to the crank on the Gallardo, I'll buy one today. Show the proof, and I'll gladly send the money.

 

actually i am english, i merely live in cardiff.

2 things tho
i. your insiders joke is actually a racist comment and joke or otherwise is not the sort of thing that should be posted here,

and ii. context can be hard to read on internet forums so when ppl make jokes on the net they generally qualify it with a smiley or similar.



you prove your tuners claims and i'll stop being so "muttonheaded"