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  1. ItaliaF1

    ItaliaF1 F1 Veteran

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    As the underdog, I really like rooting for him, although I really want Kimi to win it all this year.


    Forza Ferrari,

    John
     
  2. tifosi12

    tifosi12 Four Time F1 World Champ
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    He did beat Villeneuve in 2005.

    Which is why I believe Villeneuve is praising him. I mean Massa must be the next Schumacher if he was able to beat the mighty Villeneuve, right? :)
     
  3. tifosi12

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    Oops! Pole position, fastest lap and handsome victory equals "achieved nothing"?
     
  4. Remy Zero

    Remy Zero Two Time F1 World Champ

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    thats right. both have done the same thing. i'm talkin winning WDCs here, Andreas. how bout a Tiger now :D
     
  5. tifosi12

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    Kimi was twice in the battle for the title and was able to take the decision to the very last race.

    You might disregard this as well (I don't), but it does help a driver to have gone down that path when it comes to the ultimate duell.
     
  6. SoftwareDrone

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    Well they are doing their part for Greenpeace...
     
  7. amenasce

    amenasce Three Time F1 World Champ
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    Im for Massa all the way. Kimi might be fast but he doesnt inspire me at all. You could put a robot in the car and have the same job done.

    I dont care what people say that his job is to drive lalala , i still like to see some emotions or id be watching replays on my PS3..
     
  8. Senna3xWC

    Senna3xWC F1 Rookie

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    Actually the majority of the Senna debates around here are Senna vs. MS :p

    I don't know that Kimi has done nothing, he has run a couple title races down to the wire and he has outdriven GP winners like DC and JPM.
     
  9. Remy Zero

    Remy Zero Two Time F1 World Champ

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    true, but both of the times, the rules were against Ferrari. i mean, in 2003, he nearly became WDC with just 1 win against Schumi's 6? but i can't deny he was on fire in 2005 tho ;)
     
  10. Senna3xWC

    Senna3xWC F1 Rookie

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    Does anyone have Massa's stats vs. MS in terms of qualifying margins and fastest race lap margins? How do they comare to Irvine's vs. MS and Rubens vs. MS?

    If I am not mistaken, the driver closest to MS in terms of lap times has been Rubens.
     
  11. tifosi12

    tifosi12 Four Time F1 World Champ
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    Please refresh my memory on why the "rules were against Ferrari" when all that Kimi did was collect points? IIRC there was no other controversy.
     
  12. robert_c

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    Thanks. Twelve on track passes. I'm impressed.
     
  13. ItaliaF1

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    Although I do really like Massa and I want him to win, the Kovalainen occurred because Heikki spun at Turn 1, and Massa just cruised by, but I guess Massa would have caught him anyway.
     
  14. robert_c

    robert_c F1 Rookie

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    So who should be Ferrari #2? I vote for JB.
     
  15. Remy Zero

    Remy Zero Two Time F1 World Champ

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    JB is just a next driver. nothing spectacular.
     
  16. osg

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    the best post in this thread.................

    Oh, and tifosiron, you accuse most on here, including me of having the opaque glasses on. You sir, are the most deluded of us all.

    Re-read the above post again and wake up to yourself.
     
  17. Mr Payne

    Mr Payne F1 Rookie

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    As it stands right now, I'm not sure Massa is any faster than half the grid. He had a good fast year last year - but certainly nothing that 5 other drivers couldn't have had driving that car.
     
  18. classic308

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    Here's my 2 worthless cents on this whole thing:

    Massa is a nice # 2 driver, but it is too early to tell how he'll stack up against KR on the basis of 1 GP, especially as both of them ran different strategies....

    I think my opinion of Massa will be confirmed but I'll give him the benefit of a doubt until more evidence comes in.
     
  19. classic308

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    Remy may be thinking about the "magically expanding Michelins" that would ultimately be banned.
     
  20. Senna3xWC

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    Impressed? He passed the following:

    STR
    Spyker
    Super Aguri
    Spyker
    STR
    Williams
    Red Bull
    Honda
    Super Aguri
    Toyota
    Renault

    He was in a Ferrari, for chrissake, the fastest car on the grid. You are impressed that he managed to pass the Spykers and Super Aguris? Your expectations must be low.
     
  21. Senna1994

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    His expectations maybe low, but he has a great Avatar of DC in that Superman Suit.
     

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