355 F1 gearbox problem

Took the car out of the garage no problem when driving would not go up but then did got it into 3rd but then could not reselect drove back and tried to get it in the garage it then went into neutral but will now not select red light flashing and can not hear pump running, any tips or suggestions please? have checked brake lights, doors and lids.

 

Fluid level is fine will check the relay, thanks

 

Just to let you all know my problem has now been resolved I changed the motor for the hydraulic pump at a significantly lower price than had been quoted both on this site and others the best price I was quoted was for the whole unit a £1999 plus tax at 17.5% = £2348 and this with no warranty as it was from a totalled car! I managed to get just the motor at £830 which included tax & warranty done all the work myself so the F1 pump failure was not so near a disaster as I thought it would be, if anyone requires advice and process for change/repair and my supplier either PM me or make it open forum.
Dave.

 

Ok Gents here it is and it really is this simple.
firstly check that the motor is in fact faulty do this by taking of the power cord and measuring you are getting 12V from the car side if so you proceed as follows.
Dismound the whole F1 unit from its holder 1 nut to the side and one at the rear no need to take the nuts of just slacken and lift out
Take of the rear wheel and rear wheel well shroud(4x screws)
now the akward bit.
get under the car and looking up at the unit you will see the motor, undo the 2 allen screws and remove the defective motor.
refit as above but before refitting slave in the new motor and check function. The only warning is that if you use the non Ferrari part you need to be aware that the conections should go red to black and NOT red to red otherwise the motor will run in reverse.
The part is availible from Verdi"s
http://www.verdiferrari.biz/home.htm

 

No doubt, you are indeed correct about it being kept a secret however with My engineering background I always suspected that was the case if I had not discovered how to do it I would have removed the motor and refurbished it anyway as I am sure that a half decent electrical shop could have done it when I saw that one owner had paid out $16000 to get it done there was no way I was paying that! to be honest it took me a long time to figure out what the real problem was because I tried to ignore the fact it was the pump motor due to the horrendous costs involved, just hope my advice helps someone deal with this problem that need not be so expensive to remedy.

 

Simba, even the "real" gearbox"s have problems. Before I bought the F1 I asked the chief mechanic from my dealer what the ratio of failures were for F1 to Manual he told me they were roughly the same and to be honest it is the first problem I have had with the car in over 3 years of ownership and coupled with the enjoyment I have with the F1 system I would still have it over a manual anytime.

 

Yes I still have the old unit and will probably dismantle it and see if I can repair it. I am led to beleive that it is the motor brush that wear then melt and if that is the case should be no problem to refurbish.

 

David unfortunately it was not quite as cheap as that the motor came in at £880 including tax and post which equtes to roughly $1670 but much better than the quote for the one from the totalled car which was for the complete unit this was £2348 which converts to $4461 and that was with no warranty but even that figure is insignificant to the Gentleman on this board that was CHARGED $16000 to have a new pump assemble fitted, also one of the sponsors here quoted me $8000 for the assembly. All in all this experience should teach us just not to throw our hard earned cash at problems its often better to sit back and think about it for a while.

 

Ernie You are right on the money, my rationale for that statement is simple as I spent some time in aviation reliability and maintainability i know that the designers would have figured in the failure mode and therefore allowing the motor to be removed/replaced with no drama and in reality that is true, along come the bean counters and think how can be get back R&D money from the punter? easy answer we will only order 1 motor for one pump assemble simple really but they could not stop the motor manufacturer making the same pump (albeit with different polarity) for someone else, but they could not stop someone thinking a little about and making enquiries and finding the part.