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  1. Milan

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    #1 Milan, Feb 12, 2007
    My 275 is currently being restored by Lynx Motors Ltd (UK). For those interested I'm building a small photo record of this magic process :)

    Click here to see the record
     
  2. djaffrey

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    #2 djaffrey, Feb 12, 2007
    Thats an excellent set of photos.
     
  3. Birel

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    #3 Birel, Feb 13, 2007

    Bit of a shame really, that was a nice low mileage 2 owner car with an interior that now has the patina of years destroyed forever. Still, its his car to do with as he pleases, so I don't have an issue and am not trying to be contentious. Just sorry to see it emerge as an "English" Ferrari.
     
  4. Milan

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    #4 Milan, Feb 13, 2007
    I'm missing you point little bit. The car is being restored to the factory specification - to its original looks. The 2nd owner has changed the colour scheme to 'Ferrari red' on black just to please his eye. The patina was nice but on the wrong hide...
     
  5. Argento

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    #5 Argento, Feb 13, 2007
    Milan,

    A great record of the restoration, I'm sure you've picked the right man for the job, I'm sure JMT and you have talked about #10017....

    Argento
     
  6. Milan

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    #6 Milan, Feb 13, 2007
    Yes, we have. What a beautiful car.
     
  7. Birel

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    #7 Birel, Feb 13, 2007
    I take your point, I didn't know what the original clour scheme was. Obviously the body deterioration needed attention sooner or later. I would have sent upholstery to Italy, Luppi did the work originally and they are still in business. I'm just one of these funny people who prefer old cars to "new" old cars, so please accept my opinions in good heart. I support anyone who keeps these cars going and wish you much enjoyment when its finished.
     
  8. Milan

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    #8 Milan, Feb 13, 2007
    I prefer the old (original) cars over the new 'old' as you do. Regarding my new-old-original :) car I have to wait additional 20+ years to change it to old-original one with a genuine patina...
     
  9. PSk

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    #9 PSk, Feb 13, 2007
    Existing patina is over rated. All Milan has to do is use the car once completed and patina will return :)

    Pete
     
  10. classy

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    #10 classy, Mar 22, 2007
    Interesting. I wonder how much you put into this. Keep updating.
     
  11. classy

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    #11 classy, Mar 22, 2007
    btw: the XKSS is stunning! :)
     
  12. Motob

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    #12 Motob, Mar 22, 2007
    Really nice job. Why did you chrome plate the oil tank fittings and vacuum rail? They should be electroless nickel

    Brian B.
     
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    #13 ZINGARA 250GTL, Mar 22, 2007
    Couldn't afford it in 1970. Can't afford it now. Lovely to look at and still my favorite! Nice work!
     
  14. Milan

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    #14 Milan, Mar 22, 2007
    John's (Lynx) answer:

    >>I am rather confused as to the reference to the oil tank fittings, as
    >>these have not been chrome plated, but may appear to be in the digital
    >>photographs.
    >>With regard to the vacuum rail, there are a number of period reference
    >>photographs showing the vacuum rail with a chrome plated finish on some
    >>cars, although nickel plating was also seen on the 4cam.
    >>
    >>As with many areas of these cars, due to the hand-built bespoke nature of
    >>construction, and the individual tastes of their original owners, there is
    >>understandably no hard and fast rule. Very few people today have witnessed
    >>these cars at first hand at the factory when they were new.
    >>
    >>I would like to assure you that my research on all aspects of your car is
    >>extensive and very detailed and will of course stand up to the closest
    >>scrutiny by acknowledged marque and model experts as well as individuals
    >>such as *********, the original owner of my 4cam. He personally collected
    >>****** from the factory in **** and has a clear recollection of all details
    >>of his car. He also remembers vividly the differences in the other 275
    >>GTBs he saw at the factory during his visit, which is very interesting to
    >>marque enthusiasts and experts alike.
    >>
    >>My experience with chat rooms such as ferrarichat.com is that there will
    >>usually be an "expert" who believes his opinion is the only version of
    >>events that took place in Italy some 40 years ago. Unfortunately, this is
    >>a risk one takes when placing the photos in the public domain on the
    >>internet.
     
  15. R33

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    #15 R33, Mar 22, 2007
    Well i think you are doing a sterling job having such a beautiful car kept to such a high standard. Looks like Lynx do a fine job.
    As for all this "patina" malarky, christ, not every owner wants to keep his pride and joy looking like it just came out of a 1960 bubble. Do Luppi have their own "patina" in a jar that they can add to their resto work?
    Keeping these beauties in tip top condition keeps businesses running and some old traditions alive.
     
  16. PSk

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    #16 PSk, Mar 22, 2007
    Amen.

    Patina comes from use, and a correct restoration should IMO return the car to how it left the factory, not how it looked after 20 years of use.

    That last bit is now the owners responsiblity and should be lots of fun doing :)
    Pete
     
  17. John Vardanian

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    #17 John Vardanian, Mar 23, 2007
    Patina or not, I commend anyone who scraps the red in favor of any other color.

    Is that a sort of a Bordeaux? It is nearly the same color scheme Lynx did their Lusso. Isn't it?

    john
     
  18. Milan

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    #18 Milan, Mar 23, 2007
    Yes this is the same color scheme - Rosso Rubino/Pelle Beige.
     
  19. Bryanp

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    #19 Bryanp, Mar 24, 2007
    damn, Brian; looks like you guys at Patrick Ottis are going to have to start putting your expert title in "quotes" now . . . . Get back to work, you grease monkey.
     
  20. Motob

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  24. Milan

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    #24 Milan, Mar 25, 2007
    Thank you for the reference. Please don't be offended by the John's words, he meant his words in general...
     
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